Last week’s federal court decision forbidding the Trump administration from punishing the AP for refusing to rename the Gulf of Mexico was to take effect Monday. The administration is appealing the decision and arguing with the news outlet over whether it needs to change anything until those appeals are exhausted.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. circuit set a Thursday hearing on Trump’s request that any changes be delayed while case is reviewed. The AP is fighting for more access as soon as possible.

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    Courts need to look into getting some paramilitary deputies to do their enforcements. Slippery slope, I know, but without enforcement they’re just yelling at a bowl of rancid jello

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    I mean, if they’re going to refuse to honor a supreme court decision that instructs them to facilitate the return of a legal immigrant from the foreign prison they sent him to, why the hell would they care about a DC circuit ruling?

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      Americans are still going “CAN THEY DO THAT???” every day.

      When they announce martial law, people are still going to be like “Well, this is not good, I’m going to rethink my vote!”

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        When the announce martial law

        Why bother even announcing martial law? Trump’s DHS is functionally implementing it as we speak. We are in a state of de facto martial law whether we want to acknowledge it as such or not.

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          I mean, you’re absolutely right, there’s no need to do things by the book when you never picked up the book in the first place.

          That’s all complacent liberal America wants to hear, that there’s NO formal declaration of martial law, thus everything must be fine!

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    All this is doing is making me want to subscribe to their news site even more. The White House doesn’t realize the effect they’re having. Everytime they disparage something, that is a sign that the thing they hate is good, not bad, and probably helpful.

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      Silly Americans are so new at this.

      No, you see that’s when they announce martial law and roll out the ol’ Death Squads (they’ll have a patriotic name) to enforce the “new order” on the populace.

      Americans gonna be shouting “Wait, this is illegal!”

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        Liberal institutions with the capability to easily stop Trump through solidarity instead watching idly he steps all over them:

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        Oh, yeah…

        • The Reagan Regiment
        • The Liberty Legion
        • The Freedom Battalion
        • The Constitution Guard
        • The Federalist Front
        • The Heritage Watch
        • Stars & Stripes Corps
        • The Patriot Brigade
        • The Founders Force

        These smooth-brained motherfuckers are so predictable I can do this all day.

        Don’t forget, the most Anti-gay group out there, is called “The Proud Boys

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      Haven’t you heard though?

      Both parties are the same apparently

      Also “hunter bidens laptop” /s

      It’s literally 1 party which isn’t following any laws and getting in shit fights with literally, vs a party where Israel is the only bad thing that can be said about it…

      It’s like that black mirror episode with Waldo.

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      i know they wouldn’t be getting a conviction, but the dems seriously have to be bringing up impeachment if they want any political future for themselves, and they need to be doing it frequently

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        Impeachment is a circus act now. I’d rather they spent thier energy actually doing something useful.

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            The thing.

            The thing we’re all thinking of but can’t say because truly free speech doesn’t exist.

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            Maybe take some police and the court order / decision to the event and force your way in. Then, hold the highest ranking host of the event who is NOT Trump, in contempt and throw them in a shitty jail for a week.

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        Please, just let the Dems die off and become the neoliberal republicans they’ve always aspired to be.

        We need a new party that is actually left of center to even begin repairing this level of damage to the republic.

        Dems. Ain’t. It. Too old, too corrupt, and F tier political messaging.

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          cool… and your plan is? because if its anything but keep voting for dems until you change the system then i’ve got cheeto shaped news for ya bud: that’s how ya fucking got this mess

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            With state level electoral reform, multiple political parties could compete on who could defeat the republicans the best. If any of the new parties don’t do well, people could be free to transfer their vote to the democratic party should they choose to do so. All free of a spoiler effect.

            You know, democracy. Democracy is not "vote for my preference or else. That is a hostage situation and should be treated like the crisis it truly is. I want town halls every day taking questions on what voting system to use. Every day until it’s passed. At the bare minimum in the vast majority of blue states.

            Republicans are moving to protect First Past the Post voting in states they control. Florida made Ranked choice voting illegal. Alaskan Republicans tried to switch their state from Ranked Choice Voting back to FPTP because Ranked choice voting helped keep Sarah Palin out of office.

            Why are the democrats using the voting system that Republicans prefer? Isn’t that the most ultragigagigantic red flag ever if Republicans like something? Especially when it comes to how we vote.

            I could tolerate putting the democrats on my ballot as a backup. But I cannot tolerate shitlibs smuggly telling me I dont get to vote how I want and then doing nothing to change the voting system between elections. And not just this last election. Every election throughout my life.

            These days the democrats think they got us so locked down, so whipped, so desperate that they can just genocide whoever the fuck they want and they expect us to not only suck and swallow, but to thank them for the opportunity. Big smiles to, or else youre a secret a Russian Republican agent!

            Fuck that.

            Fuck that forever.

            We can have a choice in the voting booth. We can have multiple chances to defeat the republicans. We don’t need to beg for representation in government. Its tax day, and we should not accept taxation without representation. The republicans, we all know how they feel about democracy. How do the democrats feel about democracy? This is bare minimum shit here. If we can’t pass this purity test, Republicans don’t need to do anything to topple democracy in this nation, it already doesn’t exist.

            We will see how many blue states pass this crucial voting reform before the next election in a year and some. I don’t have any real expectations. People do what’s easy. And what’s easier then doing nothing and screaming how it’s the most important election ever and voters dont get to vote how they want?

            Again.

            Electoral Reform Videos

            First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

            Videos on alternative electoral systems

            STAR voting

            Alternative vote

            Ranked Choice voting

            Range Voting

            Single Transferable Vote

            Mixed Member Proportional representation

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              totally agree! change the system! go! do that! but while you have the system you have, face reality: you vote D or you get R. is it a shit reality? absofuckinglutely it is… but deal with it or we all - including those of us who can’t vote in US elections - lose badly

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              No, actually ‘Blue no matter who’ quite literally would have prevented this, but a bunch of people decided that a protest vote over a genocide on the other fucking side of the fucking planet being done by a different fucking nation lead by a different fucking leader was a smart and morally correct move.

              Short-sighted single issue dipshits across the political spectrum enabled this, just in different ways.

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                  Oh, it’s completely the fault of the voters. It’s also the fault of the DNC’s messaging. The crappy economy (job markets and inflation/unchecked price gouging) meant that the uninformed were just voting for “Not the Party that’s Currently In Power” because the cost of groceries and rent was outstripping their paychecks, and the messaging coming from the DNC was completely tangential to that.

                  Regular everyday Joes don’t follow politics. Just because we do doesn’t make us representative of the general population. That sort of thinking is what made Trump’s victory a surprise - both times.

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                  Ah, I see that when you are stuck with pie when you wanted ice cream, you just said “fuckit, let the orange racist nazi felon fascist dictator destroy the country.”

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            That requires an understanding of institutions as human-constructed entities that, in turn, require human influence and molding because they are not self-regulating systems and cannot be merely competed out of the ecosystem as if you were voting with your dollar as if they were merely brands that you, the consumer, get to leisurely signal you reject or align/identify with.

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          That’s because impeachment is a political process, not a legal one. Trump is inaccessible to the courts, but they should start holding DoJ and DHS lawyers and officials in contempt and have their marshals detain them.

          At the end of the day, trump is just a whiny demented full-grown-toddler giving orders. If his cabinet doesn’t have the balls to 25th him, they should at least stop doing what he says.

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        Wasn’t this guy impeached last time he was in office? The American people have spoken and we have chosen a dipshit to run the country because most people who voted for him believed that he would hurt the people who are taking advantage of them.

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          Don’t undersell it. This convicted felon was impeached twice and found liable for rape before we elected him again!

          USA! USA! US- Hey! I’m a citizen, you can’t deport me!!!

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            Don’t make the mistake of thinking you can’t be deported just because you’re a citizen. Deport first, due process later.

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              Don’t make the mistake of thinking you can’t be deported just because you’re a citizen. Deport first.

              Fixed it for you.

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              Most of family didn’t make it through the last Nazi regime—I hold no beliefs that I’m special enough to survive this one.

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      Yup, America officially becomes fascist. The executive simply doesn’t respect the judicial branch anymore.

      Mark my words, Trump will not let go gently come 2029.

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        Mark my words, Trump will not let go gently come 2029.

        That’s the most depressing thing I’ve read for a long time. Even in the best case scenario we’re stuck with this bullshit until twenty twenty fucking nine!!

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      Plenty of presidents have defied court orders. The type of order matters greatly. Defying injunctions is only contempt of court. This was a ruling, as was the return of Garcia. These are defining of a constitutional crisis.

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    Yet more evidence that it doesn’t actually matter in the eyes of the Trump administration what the law says, or what a judge says, if there is nothing behind it to physically make them follow it or face actual consequences.

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      Yet more evidence that Americans can’t identify threats with even a shred of accuracy.

      Like, when we were all saying “He’s gonna be a dictator!” and he was all like “I’m gonna be a dictator!” and then he gets into office and starts doing a dictatorship suddenly everyone is 😮

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    Nobody in this administration should ever use the word ‘constitution’ in any context other than when playing D&D.

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    Whether they are appealing or not, this sounds like the administration is breaking the law. The ruling to allow AP doesn’t stop taking effect if an appeal is in process.

    The Trump Administration keeps abusing that. They appeal something, and just do whatever they want until the appeal is processed.

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      Its not. This is the breakdown of social agreements that have been long standing. Unless something is done to enforce these orders, we’ve effectively lost the rule of law, and things will get bad fast.

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      The media and the Democrats, and probably many Americans, still seem to think that if you keep pointing out how things are wrong, illegal, and against the rules, sooner or later a system will kick in to stop them. They haven’t yet adjusted to the reality of a fascist government. There is no longer freedom of speech or rule of law in the USA. There are no longer human rights. Your life can be ruined at any moment on the whim of the leader or his enforcers.

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            Poilievre just got a bump in the polls right when he said he would do the exact same thing in Canada, deporting people who speak up for Palestine. It’s a really critical moment for Canada, and crucial that everyone vote, and get their friends to vote, to keep this man away from power.

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    So you’ll be taking trump to task now AP, and not just running soft interference for him, working on normalizing him and supporting all his fascist enablers?

    Yeah, didn’t think so. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out AP.

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      You mean like this article from the AP we’re taking about? How are they supporting trump with this article?