A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being found on his phone
Lets teach that uneducated moron Vance the Streisand effect.
imagine going on holiday in a country where they check your phone for memes
seeing the grand canyon seems cool but it can wait until that lunatic and his friends are gone
Absolutely!
I have family in the US. Uncles and aunts and cousins. One of my cousins have a child who I’ve never met. I would love to meet them all.
But there is no way I’m going to the states in the current condition. And even if the administration would be replaced, I think it would take years for the states to recover to the point where I would visit.
JD Vance meme
No, that’s just how he looks.
See - this is the thing with people going on about how its so oppressive in countries outside of “The West” where they will arrest people for insulting their king on Facebook or some shit.
We are no better. I’m not American but Britain does the same kind of shit. Read some declassified police case files, the cops pick on weird shit on people’s phones.
States are states are states are states. They just fucking do that.
I’ve been in Britain before, they didn’t check my phone
The United States is such a shithole country lol
No one should travel there.
Um excuse me, who else can defend peace and freedom and democracy? They make all the best weapons!
Somebody invite the Trisolarans
Waiting for season 2
Pfff we’ll just sanction them into surrender. Works very well, right?
China makes some pretty good rail guns, im told.
All my plans involving the US have been canceled for the foreseeable future. Fuck that place and Russia too.
That’s a paddlin’
Same thing i asked the other guy who posted this.
Do you have a source that isn’t a tabloid? The only other sources i found were other tabloids.
I’m sure horrible shit is happening but tabloids aren’t news. They are meant to get an emotional reaction via mistruths and exaggeration. And you having a one day old account makes this even more suspect.
It was reported first by Nordlys, a local newspaper based in Tromsø, and then picked up by ofher Norwegian media. The story is most likely true.
Well the CPB claims it was for drug use, but I don’t trust them
Though it DOES indicate that there is more to the story than just tabloid bait
But, but Elon told me comedy was legal now!
Only if you’re punching down, obviously
US is China now.
what are we, a bunch of asians?
I have never had my phone searched for memes (or at all, for that matter) when entering China.
Tankies should be ecstatic.
I had one say they preferred Trump to Hilary because “at least he is helping the USSR expand” so maybe
You gotta screenshot things like that.
Tankies? They are looking for red kind of fascism, not fascist kind of fascism.
That’s what the Heritage Foundation says too!
China is no shithole
China has healthcare.
China also has horrific human rights abuse and rampant organ farming/trafficking.
So it’s the same, but they have healthcare.
Not if you’re a Uyghur
Uh huh, because there’s no genocide happening in or helped by America.
Whataboutism is not an argument. Also two things can be bad at once, this is not a zero sum game.
Not sure how that’s relevant, but I disagree.
So you’ve got two genocidal states, one has healthcare (that actually does apply to Uyghurs because it’s a cultural genocide/slavery thing not an extermination) and the other wants to start WW3.
Why is the first a shit hole comparable to America? They’re clearly different tiers of fascist states. Everyone not a fascist state>China>Shitholes like America
Organ harvesting doesn’t count as healthcare
Do they have the right to search your phone ?
Yes, of course they have. Without you being present, even.
If it can be unlocked through biometrics yes, according to SCOTUS
ALWAYS use a passcode, you cannot be compelled to divulge those
you cannot be compelled to divulge those
They can deny entry.
Even for US citizens, they could still detain you for 48 hours, seize all belongings, and put you on a no-fly list.
They always had. The US border has this special exemption to the constitution that some of the normal protections don’t apply.
If you are a citizen, they (legally speaking) can’t deny you entry, but can jail (detain) you for 48 hours and seize all your belongings, and put your on a no-fly list if they wanted to.
If you are not a citizen, they could deny you entry on top of all that.
This was always the case in previous administrations, its just that in previous administration, they weren’t this insane.
They can search your asshole, nevermind your phone.
I’m not sure about the US, probably, as others have said. Most countries it’s less about a right and more about if you refuse, they’ll just stick you in holding and deny you entry.
yes.
Well too bad for me, my memes will need go away and my message history with my sister and friends on signal too
Really compromising
Please be satire, please be satire…
reads
…Oh, fuck.
Sorry for the mediocre source, but it looks like it got its facts and translation right.
Oh, it’s real. It’s in other places as well.
Our leaders are NOT Snowflakes or Emotional!
Or else!
This not only has been going on awhile, it’s worse than it sounds.
A French scientist was denied entry at the border earlier this year, in March, after officers unearthed messages criticising Trump on his phone.
Mikkelsen explained: “They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone.”
shouldve wrote it in french, instead of english. also whats a scientist still doing in the USA, they are usually fleeing the us.
How do you put someone in prison who has not entered your country yet?
And I thought it was already ruled that they can’t hold someone for that long just for not giving up a password at the border?
Any idea if these threats are actionable? He’s not a US citizen to just fine or imprison.
They have “deported” dozens of US citizens at this point. Usually, being a non-citizen makes you more vulnerable to arbitrary bullshit at the border, whereas if you’re a citizen you can stand up much more so for your rights if they’re trying to push you into something illegal, but as of this year it’s starting to matter less and less.
Everything is actionable once the rule of law collapses. At this point, if you’re crossing the border, you’re in danger of whatever they want to do to you.
i think this is a concept that a lot of people are having a hard time grasping: laws are meaningless if no one enforces them. this 100% applies both to laws meant to protect you, AND laws meant to punish those who are harming you
On the other hand his actions are not regulated by law or by any clearly formulated code of behaviour. In Oceania there is no law. Thoughts and actions which, when detected, mean certain death are not formally forbidden, and the endless purges, arrests, tortures, imprisonments, and vaporizations are not inflicted as punishment for crimes which have actually been committed, but are merely the wiping-out of persons who might perhaps commit a crime at some time in the future.
-1984
There’s neither even a rhyme nor reason to Trump’s fascism (or to fascism in general). But it does correlate with the observation that they are fantasists. They do things out of whim and emotions, disregarding expert advice and opinions. Any promulgation of fascism will eventually lead to its own downfall, because they live in a fantasy world where they believe that their will alone could shape reality; ignoring the basic common sense that reality could never be altered to one’s desires.
they are not legal, as the first amendment applies even to noncitizens. however that doesn’t mean they can’t deny entry for “any” reason. they are fascist after all.
It has been ruled by SCOTUS that the Constitution specifically does not apply at border entry to non-citizens:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_ex_rel._Knauff_v._Shaughnessy
the Constitution does not grant aliens any protections when trying to enter the United States.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8-7-3/ALDE_00001263/[‘article’, ‘14’]
an alien “on the threshold of initial entry stands on a different footing” because he or she is theoretically outside the United States and typically beyond the veil of constitutional protection.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/345/206/
Although a lawfully resident alien may not captiously be deprived of his constitutional rights [to due process], the alien in this case is an entrant alien or “assimilated to that status” for constitutional purposes.
The Attorney General therefore may exclude this alien without a hearing, as authorized by the emergency regulations promulgated pursuant to the Passport Act, and need not disclose the evidence upon which that determination rests.
Basically like firing you from work for discrimination isn’t legal, but firing you for performance is (your performance being anything they wish to come up with).
Depressingly, SCOTUS has ruled that you really don’t have the same rights at border crossings as you do once you’ve passed through.
This applies to citizens as well as foreign nationals.
You have even less rights at border crossings if you are not a citizen and have not technically entered the country through immigration yet… basically the Constitution does not even apply:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_ex_rel._Knauff_v._Shaughnessy
Once you’re in a country you are subject to that country’s laws, it’s a thing you need to be aware of when traveling. A lot of people find that out the hard way.
So yea, they are actionable if they want it to be.
It’s against American law.
Magas hate freedom
This can’t be true because conservatives always cry about free speech.
If this is true then that means conservatives are massive hypocritical assholes.
You don’t think they would do that?
Just go on the internet and tell lies?
