A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being found on his phone

A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being found on his phone

  • XLE@piefed.socialOPEnglish
    721·
    24 hours ago

    Any idea if these threats are actionable? He’s not a US citizen to just fine or imprison.

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
      88·
      24 hours ago

      They have “deported” dozens of US citizens at this point. Usually, being a non-citizen makes you more vulnerable to arbitrary bullshit at the border, whereas if you’re a citizen you can stand up much more so for your rights if they’re trying to push you into something illegal, but as of this year it’s starting to matter less and less.

      Everything is actionable once the rule of law collapses. At this point, if you’re crossing the border, you’re in danger of whatever they want to do to you.

      • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
        69·
        23 hours ago

        i think this is a concept that a lot of people are having a hard time grasping: laws are meaningless if no one enforces them. this 100% applies both to laws meant to protect you, AND laws meant to punish those who are harming you

        On the other hand his actions are not regulated by law or by any clearly formulated code of behaviour. In Oceania there is no law. Thoughts and actions which, when detected, mean certain death are not formally forbidden, and the endless purges, arrests, tortures, imprisonments, and vaporizations are not inflicted as punishment for crimes which have actually been committed, but are merely the wiping-out of persons who might perhaps commit a crime at some time in the future.

        -1984

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
        12·
        20 hours ago

        There’s neither even a rhyme nor reason to Trump’s fascism (or to fascism in general). But it does correlate with the observation that they are fantasists. They do things out of whim and emotions, disregarding expert advice and opinions. Any promulgation of fascism will eventually lead to its own downfall, because they live in a fantasy world where they believe that their will alone could shape reality; ignoring the basic common sense that reality could never be altered to one’s desires.

    • flandish@lemmy.world
      27·
      23 hours ago

      they are not legal, as the first amendment applies even to noncitizens. however that doesn’t mean they can’t deny entry for “any” reason. they are fascist after all.

    • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      18·
      23 hours ago

      Depressingly, SCOTUS has ruled that you really don’t have the same rights at border crossings as you do once you’ve passed through.

      This applies to citizens as well as foreign nationals.

    • Kirp123@lemmy.world
      72·
      22 hours ago

      Once you’re in a country you are subject to that country’s laws, it’s a thing you need to be aware of when traveling. A lot of people find that out the hard way.

      So yea, they are actionable if they want it to be.