why is there not a revolution yet

not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 days ago

why is there not a revolution yet

KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 days ago

Millennials and Gen Z have largely given up. Occupy Wall Street did nothing; BLM did nothing; Trump was re-elected after his first term. It feels hopeless.

People are socially isolated. Most interactions happen on private social media platforms where people have been conditioned to filter their responses to not upset arbitrary algorithms, or future educational institutions, or future employers. The Luigi Mangione discourse caused people to break from that, but look at how YouTube and Reddit wrangled that discussion down. And that was just praising a shooting that already happened.

Most important: Years of hearing praise for government policy and legal means of change has left most Americans paralyzed when those systems are failing. We were raised on Martin Luther King Jr. without mention of Malcom X. We were told to “protest and rally” for change - period. No one explained the unspoken threat behind protests - of the force of 20,000 or 40,000 or however-many angry people. And those in power know that. Every modern protest and rally at most threatens to not re-elect the current politicians, and the Republicans have made it clear they don’t plan on honoring that election.

jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 2 days ago

When people do try protests that are disruptive, people complain about it.

i think protests should be focused on stopping the machinery that’s grinding us all up. But if your protest means traffic or a closed Walmart then all the short sighted idiots and all the people barely holding on get mad.

I don’t think people are smart enough to deal with this world we have created.

saltesc@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

Censoring FUCK seems kind of ironic.

toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

also *Your

0ops@lemm.ee · 3 days ago

I think your right

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 days ago

Fuckity-fuck this censored-ass Internet. Shitcockballs

HakunaHafada@lemm.ee · 3 days ago

It’s pathetic. The fucking internet is great for saying fuck, this pansy-ass self-censoring really needs to stop.

arbitrary_sarcasm@lemmy.world · edit-2 3 days ago

I fully agree with the content OP posted.

But I cannot help myself.

*Your

Jhex@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

because it turned out Americans are too meek or too ignorant to act

deaf_fish@lemm.ee · 3 days ago

People need to miss at least three meals in a row before they start getting serious. We don’t have the material conditions yet to act.

Jhex@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

That’s like trying to put on the seatbelt after the crash

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 days ago

Humans are dumb at the macro scale

Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

Not really

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

How are you gonna act with an empty stomach tho?

FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world · 2 days ago

Without an alternative. People get very unhappy when they’re starving.

deaf_fish@lemm.ee · 3 days ago

Very hungry.

Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 3 days ago

On fat reserves.

Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

Angrily

WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 3 days ago

“Cowardly” is the word you’re looking for.

Echo Dot@feddit.uk · 3 days ago

It also doesn’t help that all of the people with guns, like the current situation. They may subsequently change their mind when the realities of the situation start to hit in a few years, but currently they’re alright with it.

AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

Not all gun owners like the current situation.

Source: Gun Owner, do not like current situation. There’s a vast difference between a responsible gun owner and those ammosexuals who just want to be given an excuse to open fire at anything.

Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world · edit-2 3 days ago

The rampant delusion that right-wing conservatives are the only Americans with guns lol. Possibly they’re just the only ones dumb enough to believe their guns and weekend target shooting would enable them to win against the US military. That would kind of make sense, cuz they’d assume Jeezus would be on their side.

the_crotch@sh.itjust.works · 2 days ago

I guess Jesus was on Vietnam and Afghanistan’s side

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · edit-2 3 days ago

Like the idea of a bunch of cave dwelling zealots beating three empires in a row, absurd

papalonian@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

I definitely wouldn’t say “all”. There’s plenty of us with guns that do not like the situation. What exactly do you expect everyone to do, go outside and shoot their Republican neighbor? Someone tried shooting Trump, and most leftists with >2 brain cells would agree that it would’ve been an absolute shit show if he’d succeeded in killing him.

I don’t disagree that the group of people that like the situation are more heavily armed than the group of people that dislike it, but the same thing has been said for a decade now… Why not start changing that situation?

CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N@sh.itjust.works · 3 days ago

I’m glad people keep thinking like you do.

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 days ago

Thinking that you can just shoot your way out of your problems? Yeah, that mindset has been great for the USA! Definitely let’s have more people like that!

SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · edit-2 3 days ago

Everything is inherently political and only apathetic cowards disengage from this reality.

Jax@sh.itjust.works · 3 days ago

Large emphasis on apathetic cowards

haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com · 3 days ago

Capitalism is very good at protecting itself.

Join a union and vote radical left.

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 days ago

vote radical left.

If people voted based on issues instead of party loyalty…the US would be a completely different country.

haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com · 3 days ago

People should vote in their genuine best self interest, which is working class in 99% of all cases and they would have been best served with a mostly socialist party. So I guess i agree that party loyalty isn’t great.

Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 hours ago

party loyalty is great, you should always make sure your party hasn’t magically become a different party since the last time you voted.

imagine if social democrats could stop fucking turning themselves into neolibs, even the socialists here in sweden seem to be threatening to ease off the leftism

haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com · 2 hours ago

Thats ehy party loyalty sucks ass. Just look at the last 5 yrs of a party to make your voting decision. Who did what and why? Its not hard.

WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 3 days ago

It’s especially good at protecting itself from literally zero threats.

Let’s not pretend Americans are putting up any kind of fight at all.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 days ago

Right, because capitalism has conditioned us to be complacent.

haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com · 2 days ago

That just hit the nail on the head so hard it caught fire!

Eheran@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

Which other system was not good at that?

CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

Anarchism

haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com · 3 days ago

Every other system. Capitalism is far more adaptable, which is not a good sign btw. Because if a system fails to provide for its citizens it should make way for others.

In terms of providing, others were better.

Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

Most Americans couldn’t revolution their way out of a Walmart.

auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 days ago

Most the population is checked out you’re not getting a revolution until they starve.

jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 days ago

And the other half of wrecking the US economy is to remove resources from the general population, making it much harder for revolution to happen. So by the time it gets to that point, there will be little resources for most of the population beyond lacking food.

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 days ago

Your.

3dmvr@piefed.social · 3 days ago

Sure, but I miss when the internet was an escape, now its kinda of dead for me, I spend more time offline because of the 24/7 outrage, like yeah im upset too, but it just gets repetitive, im not built to be stressed out constantly, im getting blood pressure issues, had to dlt x because the algoirthim shifted towards controversy hard, and have to use lemmy less since its just depressing/exciting in a bad way news all the time.
Really wish lemmy was an exception, considering how small it is and how powerless the userbase is, yet its just another source of stress in my life lately

Sergio@slrpnk.net · 3 days ago

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lemmyknow@lemmy.today · 3 days ago

Maybe Lemmy could have support for categorising/tagging communities and/or posts, such that one could follow, block, or maybe filter them. I.e. tag a community “Politics”, and users could simply express a lack of interest on the aforementioned category, and see no further from said community and others alike

3dmvr@piefed.social · 3 days ago

Stuck with reddit as the only place you can talk about not politics primarily, I wouldnt mind it if it wasn’t 75% of my feed

3dmvr@piefed.social · edit-2 3 days ago

no lawmakers are here, anyone here is already voting on the same side as you, yeah get your thoughts out but Idk what sort of political change yall think yall make on this platform specifically, its an echo chamber of outrage

grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 3 days ago

Not a bad point…

We’re a subculture, which is a socially isolating, defensive posture to take. An offensive posture would be, I guess, to form a counterculture–and go out there to where the people are, so you can reproduce your culture in differently minded people.

But who wants to do that when we’ve got this cozy wozy place.

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 days ago

That’s a dang ol’ fuck, man -Boomhauer

tartaruga@lemm.ee · 2 days ago

Because people give their power away to authorities, instead of taking control over their own lives. No one is going to rescue any of you. Only when we all accept this and move on, together, will we ever be free.

RockBottom@feddit.org · 3 days ago

The kind where you execute your surpressors or where you throw imports into the harbour?

CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world · 3 days ago

surpressors

RockBottom@feddit.org · 3 days ago

https://feddit.org/post/13260718

RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works · edit-2 3 days ago

What is this from? There’s no source.

Edit: Colonial Outcasts podcast 5/27/25

WolframViper · 3 days ago

What would be signs of a revolution?

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 days ago

Small scale political violence and organization of militias.

Oh, look, it’s just the fascists doing that.

Enjoy the results of your own policies, neolibs.