That is, indeed, nauseating
No, absolutely not
Fuck conservatives and Nazis stealing words from the people respecting individualism
They already stole ‘libertarian’ and ‘freedom’ from us.
I’ll never give them ‘Punk’
Fuck those assholes
This! Most punks are from leftist countercultures. Let’s keep it that way.
(They are also trying to steal “anarchism” with their whole “anarcho-capitalism” BS)
Anyone here remember Negative XP? Yeah like, we had this discussion 6 years ago or smt. Although I would never agree with this fascist piece of shit, what I take of this thumbnail is indicative of a very real phenomenon. Western countries becoming more progressive and integrating values of former counter-cultures over the last decades actually is doing new-right/alt-right movements a favor – at the moment, at least. If we’re lucky it will backfire in a few years.
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Yes. All I’m saying is please don’t simply dismiss this, it shows how adaptable right-wing ideology is.
I agree with everything else you said.
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Follow me here. Society has become very accepting, and progressives have been very successful in the long run (as is the norm). That makes being a conservative “counter-culture.”
Society is still addicted to hierarchy. Punks are against hierarchy. Conservatives fucking love hierarchy.
Conservatives may be counter culture, but they will never be punk.
Also, you don’t get to call yourself “counter culture” when you are in charge of the most powerful country on the planet.
Also, you don’t get to call yourself “counter culture” when you are in charge of the most powerful country on the planet.
You do when you a massive victim complex.
You don’t get to, but you will anyways because you fucking suck.
Well, being in charge doesn’t mean you are aligned with the majority.
Society is still addicted to hierarchy
You make it sound like its gonna change somehow.
It’s not. Humans are the worst. Only option is to leave society.
Why are humans the worst? Most animals have hierarchy. It’s the most natural thing. Why are you trying to escape it?
Have you met humans?
Yeah. Are you suggesting that I should be instinctively repulsed by the nature of humans?
I am.
I wrote my own comment before seeing yours. I see what you are getting at, but this is all theatre. Straight white Christians still hold the power and the wealth, it just suits the oligarchy to pretend they don’t.
not all counter culture is punk tho. Granola hippies are not punk by any stretch of the imagination. Neither is anyone who has ever stepped foot in a Brooks Brothers store.
The fuck is a Brooks Brother store? Sounds like some WASP yuppie shit.
Oh buddy. It’s THE store for WASP yuppie shit.
So mind if ya give an elaboration about it? Cause the name doesn’t exactly give away too much, like maybe it’s some weird Spencers like store or it could be a clothing store just off of the name.
It’s seriously just the clothing store for the button down crowd. Been around since the 1800’s, an American institution. Just go to their website, it’s yuppie clothing 100%
That fucken Brooks Brothers looked it up an yeah I’m gonna stick to Duluth for my white people clothing. Also for some reason I was not processing that it was connected to the Brooks Brother riots.
Nothing says punk like the haircut on the poster at the barber shop in the mall.
I’m the real 4th Reich you’d be the first to go.
Also:
For good measure:
https://dazedprod.blob.core.windows.net/dazed-prod/1200/1/1201078.gif
Say that to a punk’s face. See how long your groin lasts.
Oof semi related, what’s the context of that photo 😬
It’s a photoshop. The girl is from another awkward dance photo.
I cant remember the name of the community but it was in the title of one of the first I susbscribed to.
Im not suggest that the guy was in anyway conservative and dont get me started on the punk movement as a response to thatcherism.Oh was that from Photoshopbattles by chance? Back in the day that subreddit was the shit, with people combining all of the top posts from the last month into the most amazing chaos
The girl was a short lived meme back in the mid 00s called Moshzilla.
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I SHOT REAGAAAAAAAN
If anyone wants on deep dive into the topic, I recommend this video essay by Cal Does Life.
Republicans have the Presidency, the House, the Senate, a majority on the Supreme Court, a majority of state and local legislatures, and a cabinet full of rich billionaires.
Republicans: We are punks fighting The Man!
Most of those are not even that conservative as pundits tho, and have been caught by hot mics or admitted they’re mostly in it for the money. Which is, arguably, worse.
If the guy on the right is Paul Joseph Watson, then he was caught on a hot mic being more racist than normal.
I get making a bag in capitalism, but fuck these people even more. There’s a limit to making money.
I would have maybe the littlest bit of respect if they had convictions for what they claimed to be arguing for but people like PJW and Milo are genuinely just money-driven ghouls.
Oh, that’s punk as fuck
Selling out is not punk
Funny how so many old punks do it, then 😆
Being punk has an awful pension
😢
That’s like pointing out that it’s not historically accurate that Ghandi wants to nuke the planet.
Lol good luck. Everybody in the punk scene has been calling out maga and Republicans.
Other than that cunt Johnny Rotten. Fuck him and his butter commercials. The sex pistols sucked anyways.
Danzig
John Lydon
Johnny Ramone
Are there any other the right can legit claim? I’m sure there are a few more, but this is all I can scrape from the top of my brain.
Good point. Got me thinking. Jerry Only AND Michael Graves are right-wing shit asses as well.
They keep saying that and yet they refuse to build systems of gutter trash mutual aid, which any punk knows is the foundation of every punk scene. It’s a bunch of 20 something alcoholics crashing on each other’s couches, running books to prisoners programs, and taking on so much antifascist labor they crack under the pressure.
American conservatives have been frighteningly effective at pushing this narrative that they are the outsiders, that they’re fighting against the status quo, so it doesn’t surprise me that they would steal punk.
They consider it a radical act to be straight, white, and Christian, when in fact that always has been, and still is the majority, as well as those who hold the money and the power.
From my perspective, this has been one of their most successful moves and it’s been brewing for decades - look at the tea party. There has never been a leftist or even liberal machine to rage against, but pretending that there is gets all the normies to feel special and oppressed at the same time, culminating in this fucking shitshow you have over there.
Fuck these Nazis
There has never been a leftist or even liberal machine to rage against,
I wouldn’t rage against him, but The Iron Giant is a pretty leftist machine.
Same with British conservatives …the media all push right wing politics, but it’s the left that are brainwashed. Does my nut in.
