If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I’m fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it’s not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I’ll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
So gosh darn tired of that.
To those deleters, I want to say: if you don’t like the answers that you’re getting, tough shit buddy. Learn from your mistake. Leave the post up for other people to also learn.
Hello Lemmy, I have a question:
When you devote 30 minutes to a detailed answer about something you’re passionate about and refresh to find “permanently deleted”
Or if you’re like me and see a thread, be all like “Oh, that could be interesting, I’ll check that later,” and put your phone away for a few hours, and then, when you finally get to check the thread again, and refresh it just to be up to date, you see it’s been permanently deleted…
The solution to this is changing the software to give the communities more control over the content, being able to restore the comment, maybe without the name so the persons username keeps unaffected while still keeping the content intact.
This needs to go into the lemmy software issue tracker to be considered. That is the way to change things.
The problem is that it’s hard to negotiate that against the reason a lot of people left Reddit: losing control over their own content. People want to have the ability to delete their stuff.
The only thing that I think should be different is that deleting a post or comment shouldn’t delete everything under it. Comments from other users should remain accessible when the parent is deleted. I’ve had a lot of good discussions on Lemmy that I can’t access anymore because someone chose to delete their content above it, which also deleted mine. It’s still losing control over my own content, but in the opposite way from Reddit.
yes, fully agree. please add this to the issue tracker! :) thank you
Lemmy will never be the resource reddit became if everyone just deletes their info.
And maybe that’s okay, isn’t it?
No.
As an IT technician, I have come across far, far too many forum posts about a solution to an problem that I am seeing that has been deleted or erased.
What did you see devercoder9?
The worst is when you are looking up a problem, find a thread like that, and the only reply is the same person saying “Nevermind, I figured it out!”
WHAT DID YOU FIGURE OUT???
Now I mind even more.
Firmly agree. If I notice a trend on posts being deleted after posting, I just block the user so I don’t see the new posts. Nothing is more annoying then putting a bunch of effort responding to someones question, especially tech related, just for them to nuke the post later on so it was all for nothing.
Thankfully though, it’s few and far between on the communities that I usually look at, so I have not noticed it a whole lot.
just a quick question, any reason on why they do it…? I find it counterintuitive
as others have said, generally a privacy issue type deal. Sometimes regarding data being collected then sold.
I don’t agree with the mentality tbh, if you were concerned about that just don’t post. Nothing is stopping the data collectors from collecting it anyway(I’m sure they already have their own instance set to auto sub and ignore deletion requests), the only people who are effected by it are the users who wanted to see the post, and the people who put effort into responding.
Sometimes it’s because they’re getting answers they don’t like.
Debate boards here just wouldn’t work out even with equivalent population. The OPs regularly delete their posts out of embarrassment. Religious debaters especially.
What a waste it’d be to put the effort into a debate only for the entire thread to get nuked out of existence because the OP can’t handle the responses. It’s annoying enough to just lose the OP arguments on reddit when they self delete. Here, everything is just gone.
I think it’s trying to minimize their digital footprint/reduce the amount of LLMs that will ingest their post.
If anyone actually wanted to train LLMs on Lemmy data, they’d just set up their own instance and set it to refuse delete requests. Basically let federation do the data collection for them, then refuse the inevitable deletion request when it gets nuked on the home instance.
That’s surely one reason. Another would be collecting data to create profiles to make advertising and political manipulation even more effective.
I deleted a post because it was the dumbest shit ever written by humanity. I was drunk at the time…
So? Leave it up for the humor.
You are my spirit animal.
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Anyone deleting for privacy reasons doesn’t understand federation. If someone was looking to train an LLM, they’d would just set up their own instance, set it to auto-subscribe to whatever content they wanted to aggregate, and then refuse to honor deletion requests when they rolled in.
Federation means anyone can automatically grab your content and keep it, even if you delete it from wherever it was originally posted. Deleting it from that original instance simply sends a delete request to other instances. But it’s up to those other instances to actually follow through with honoring the request. If they don’t want to delete it, there’s nothing the other instances can do to force them to do so.
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I get the profiling concern, but if someone’s that worried about a post being linked to them, they should use a throwaway anyway. I’m sure that someone out there is archiving everything posted anyway, and if they don’t, it’ll be tied to them there.
I promise, I’ll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
Yeah this is a really good idea; I’ve been wanting to do it but haven’t had the time to configure everything. You’d need to hide which instance it actually is though, or other instances would just defederate from it. Maybe set up a website where you can plop in a post/comment URL and see the deleted contents.
I’ll get around to it one of these days…
hope this gets deleted soon
You’re not alone in this. This is a carryover from reddit, and it’s maddening. But, thus is life, I guess.
I’m fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it’s not just me.
Yup, extremely annoying
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A lot of people make posts and then delete the post and/or their entire account, nuking large threads leaving them with the title “Permanently Deleted.”
My solution to this is:
- Use a UI or app that badges or otherwise indicates new accounts (or accounts newer than 30 days or so)
- Refuse to interact with those accounts in the various “ask” communities. Maybe even throw it a downvote if it seems like it’s coming from the same person that keeps doing this.
- If no one engages with them, maybe they’ll knock this “hit it and quit it” bullshit off.
Sorry legit new accounts, but it’s these selfish assholes that are ruining things for you and everyone else.
I had a 2 year old account, then lemm.ee shut down and I’m a baby again :(
Welcome to sh.itjust.works, btw!
It would be nice if there was some sort of account handoff process between instances. Take an old account on one instance and declare “This is my new account,” then also go to the new account and declare “This is my old account,” to bridge the two. Import settings, statistics, content, etc. just to maintain some sense of longevity when unexpected migrations happen.
there is always bad actors that get everyone else in trouble or put them all in a bad light… :(
You sound like a fed to me… 🤨
/s (unless…?)
That seems like a tripping powermod problem, not a user problem.
Users can block other users. Mods are unnecessary and harmful. A redundant point of failure.
EDIT: Oh, wait, if it’s the user doing it just block that asshole, it’ll save you the frustration.
It’s usually mods powertripping, though.
I like mods keeping communities on topic.
A mod should remove this post because it doesn’t ask a question.
Maybe make lemmy a more welcoming place to post, hm?
The problem never is you…
