American Revolution. French Revolution. Iranian Revolution.
Just a few very violent, and successful, revolutions.
my fucking ass 👅🥾
Bolsheviks, Stonewall riots, suffragettes, all famously peaceful movements that got their rights by staying on their knees and asking nicely.
Y’all are out in full force today, huh
well where the hell could I go
Outside and touch grass? Where I am it’s beautiful and sunny out. Go for a run.
I just came indoors
To be fair it would be illegal to do so outdoors.
Who wrote this article? Fairy tale bullshit??
General strikes accomplish a fuck of a lot more in a shorter amount of time. When the owners of the administration can’t get their poptarts to the stores to be sold, the bank calls their loans and shit gets real.
Right after Covid ended, the nurses in the NYC hospitals decided that after being so heroic for over a year, they deserved raises, and some other benefits. The hospitals flat-out refused anything.
The nurses went on strike. Within 72 hours, every single one of their demands was met, including a fat raise.
Unions and strikes work.
Let me know what all the peaceful protests on climate change did leading up to and since the Paris Agreement.
Civil disobedience, including violent action, absolutely has a place in changing the policy of the state.
Sure, a poor uneducated place.
Anyone who makes peaceful revolution impossible makes violent revolution inevitable.
List all the regimes that weren’t brought down by peaceful protests and singing kumbaya. No worries we will wait.
Um, you sure you don’t mean all the regimes that “were” brought down by peaceful protests and singing kumbaya? Either way I really don’t have the desire or time to look any of that up for you.
Ah, so you agree there IS a place though.
This is complete utter propaganda, especially considering it’s coming from the BBC. History has shown us time and time again that the ruling class never gives up its power peacefully.
I honestly cant recall seeing any peaceful protest accomplishing anything of significance in my lifetime. Most successful protests I hear about are the French lighting up Paris when they try to raise the retirement age. They just try again 2 years later though.
There’s a book on the subject written by Srdja Popovic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint_for_Revolution
Summary: protests that start (and try to remain) non-violent have a greater chance to succeed, because they can attract more people to their cause.
Critique: with some regimes, it’s not possible to non-violently protest. For non-violent protest to work, the environment must respect a minimum amount of human rights.
Case samples:
- US during the civil rights movement era: yes
- USSR under Gorbachev: yes
- Serbia under Milosevic: yes, with difficulty on every step (Popovic was there doing it)
- Israel under Netanyahu: probably yes
- China under Xi: practically no (not for long)
- USSR under Kruschev/Brezhnev/Andropov/Chernenko: not really
- Russia under Putin: no, don’t even hold a blank sheet of paper
- Iran under Khamenei: only if you’re doing a bread riot
- Saudi Arabia, USSR under Stalin, NK under the Kim dynasty: no, and execution would be a possible outcome
…etc. In some places, you can’t organize. Then your only option is to fight. As long as you can publicly organize, definitely do so - it’s vastly preferable. :)
Israel under Netanyahu: probably yes
When Palestinians protest peacefully they get shot at.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–2019_Gaza_border_protests
When foreigners peacefully protest in solidarity they get shot or run over.
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241231447/rachel-corrie-gaza-palestinians-aid-israel-hamas-war
Not sure you should include Gorbachev since he illegally dissolved the USSR against the will of the people.
Yes, the USSR, famous for respecting the will of the people …
Srdja Popovic
LOL
https://inthesetimes.com/article/wikileaks-docs-expose-famed-serbian-activists-ties-to-shadow-ciaTelling you have the name perestroika, by the hated traitor Gorbachev putting them in misery while corrupt oligarchs from the west leeched on Russia.
LOL complete BS
Tankies are going to hate this comment.
Bcs it’s garbage
^^
You do realize that he wasn’t run over unlike the Palestinians who do get run over by Israeli tanks.
Not just Palestinians, Rachel Corrie got run over by an Israeli bulldozer and she was a peaceful protestor from the US.
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241231447/rachel-corrie-gaza-palestinians-aid-israel-hamas-war
https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs
The group of protesters remained steadfast, even in the face of annihilation. Shots rang out, innocents were struck, and people began to die. Nonetheless — there was power in numbers, and solidarity that allowed them to find courage — and thousands joined hands as bullets flew. “Students linked arms but were mown down,” wrote Donald. “APCs then ran over the bodies time and time again to make, quote ‘pie’ unquote, and remains collected by bulldozer.”
As if this wasn’t atrocious enough, the government’s criminal and brutal activity that day got even worse. With no regard for the families of these victims, not to mention their identities, what was left of them was disposed of — in an unspeakably callous manner.
“Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains,” Donald wrote.
thanks CIA, your cringe BS is still cringe.
Guess that’s all you have, certainly not argumentsSo let me get this clear: your position is that I am CIA and that the Tiananmen square massacre did not happen?
Is that correct, or am I missing something? Feel free to use “arguments” to explain yourself.
For hell’s sake have you ever seen the entire video from which the picture was extracted? The guy literally stopped the tanks, had a chat with them, and walked away unharmed.
And like clockwork, here they come crawling out of the woodworks …
“Oh no, the evil tankies are here to give facts against my CIA-manufactured sinophobic propaganda :(”
Please, answer: have you ever watched the entire thing?
Have you ever watched this, tankboy?
https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs
I especially liked the bit about using tanks to make human pie, and then flushing the pie down the drains.
Keep Goodhart’s law in mind:
“When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure”
Thanks Bernie the sheepdog.
Make sure the sheep don’t make waves.
And don’t forget to say pissrahell has aright to defend itselfWell that’s total bs, in Greece there’s been dozens of non-violent protests far exceeding 3.5% that have failed spectacularly.
Clue: peaceful protests in the entire western world achieved nothing for the past half a century. You had the massive Greece protests, the Gilets Jeunes in France, the 15-M in Spain, the Occupy Movement in the US, the BLM protests in the US too, the anti Iraq war protests all over Europe… None of them achieved anything meaningful. The EU and US are NOT democratic.
Didn’t BLM 2020 protests have over 3.5%? I don’t think they accomplished much except put pressure to prosecute Chauvin. Like literally just that one guy.
Liberal three-percenter lore?
I mean, I do think non-violent disobedience can be effective, but the state usually makes it violent. State sanctioned protests where most obey most of the rules isn’t disobedience. Is a good start though, and I hope things progress (in a good way).
lol of course this garbage bootlicker propaganda is left up on .world, a classic example of their quality modding skills
glad to see the comments calling it out for what it is
While this is obviously not true. It is hilarious seeing that some comments call bullshit on this while thinking that violent protests have any better chance to succeed.
I believe that a non-insignificant number of them are pushing an agenda.
