• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    AOC might have a chance

    We should really stop this.

    I like AOC.

    I also realize we just elected a rapist felon traitor insurrectionist and declined the last 2 females who ran for president, despite being WAY more qualified than a felon rapist traitor insurrectionist.

    This is not the time and not the country to elect a female president, especially one so “green”. If we try to push AOC, we’re going to lose, again.

    This is not how I want things to be. It’s simply an observation of this nation and how extremely unlikely it is to elect a woman president. It’ll be Bernie all over again, but probably even more of a shutout.

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      3 days ago

      You’re like, on the edge of political awareness, but you’re kinda stuck on the wallpaper.

      Setting aside that I also said she’s not the right candidate for the time, I know for a fact that the “woman president will never win” mandate is a manufactured talking point and a lot of otherwise smart people ate that story up because they thought the system was remotely balanced and that democracy wasn’t compromised. (as well as latent, bitter, cynical sexism oozing out of the country’s pores right now.)

      Clinton won the popular vote. It’s not the gender of the candidate, it’s the energy of the electorate and their ability to sidestep very real corruption in politics by people like Elon Musk controlling AI and search engines, and very real KGB tactics being used on our populace.

      Trump’s victories have been hacks. They exploited every angle to make it happen. The people who voted him into power are the minority, they don’t represent the average voter. Our problem is the “average voter” is staying home, because, and I cannot stress this enough, our society has been compromised, hacked, unfairly influenced. In this current climate we won’t see ANYONE the corporate oligarchs don’t want to see on the throne. The Democrat party is in on this. There’s a reason they’re trying to undermine the Dems who don’t take the checks like AOC and Zhoran, people who are basically enemies of their own party.

      We rebuild this a piece at a time from grassroots, and we need to push the “gender” questions out of public discourse and stop falling for the distraction. Every other nation is electing liberal or left-leaning candidates, men and women alike. This isn’t a fair democracy in the USA anymore, we have to get out of this mindset that we “just need our own version of Trump.”

      We need the popular mandate but we also need a way to get around the artificial bumpers the current oligarchy has set up. If you buy the idea that we need to remove women from the ballot, or we need candidates who are more “moderate” (IE: right leaning) you’re falling for the ploy, hook, line and sinker.

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      4 days ago

      Do not blame it on being a woman, statistically they win the same rate as male candidates just run far less often.

      It’s just being sexist for someone else’s sake.

      This is not the time to run status quo and low effort candidates but loud and effective ones which we have a shortage of in the DNC.

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        4 days ago

        Do not blame it on being a woman

        I’m not. I’m blaming it on the American electorate, which is what I stated in my comment that you didn’t read thoroughly.

        statistically they win the same rate as male candidates

        Not for president they don’t, and if you read my comment thoroughly, you’d know that’s what I was talking about. Open your eyes bud. It was a woman or a felon rapist traitor who ALREADY FAILED ONCE AS PRESIDENT. We chose the rapist instead of the woman. Welcome to American reality.

        And it isn’t just that she’s a woman. She’s a woman AND extremely liberal. That combo simply doesn’t work for a lot of the American electorate.

        This is not the time to run status quo

        I didn’t say status quo. Did you read my comment at all? You can run all sorts of people that aren’t status quo and also not a woman. I WANT A WOMAN PRESIDENT. Spoiler alert, it ain’t happening anytime soon in America. But if you’d like to ignore reality and lose again…that’s your right as a voter. That kind of behavior is why we are where we are.

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          4 days ago

          The American electorate is not who is writing your comments.

          You are distinctly ignoring other critiques to focus on gender as the main component. Do not assign your own bias to everyone else. We do not all think as you do and can’t be blamed for what you think to be true.

          Statistically across the world women win elections at the same rate as men.

          Support a female president you want then instead of telling them all that none of them can win because of their gender. It makes you sound like the sexist.