Not American so could be wrong, but there’s a law that they can’t do police services unless activated by the state not the president so that will be interesting
Article 4 of the Constitution, they can’t take your house to do anything.
Seems the Constitution has been suspended.
The president deploying the national guard, let alone the fucking MARINES, to “assist police” is a direct violation of the posse comitatus act, which was written to SPECIFICALLY PREVENT ANY PRESIDENT from using the military as law enforcement
Doesn’t matter if it’s illegal, if there’s no consequences
Every military and law enforcement member needs to understand right now that attacking protesters for exercising their First Amendment rights is crossing a line that they can never come back from. I, for one, will always hold it against any MAGA for the rest of my life. They deserve to be mercilessly shunned, ridiculed, and discriminated against for the rest of their miserable, stupid, treasonous lives. I own a business, and I will never hire a MAGA supporter, ever.
Plot twist: they round up ice and throw them in the brig
You tease!
The Silver Lining: Media coverage of the extensive protests in every city in America has been so light, that some people are asking why nobody is doing anything. Meanwhile Millions of people are protesting across America. Some protests have been higher than 5 million nationally, and they are growing. At 12 million, we reach 3.5%, which experts say is the threshold for a “tipping point,” which leads to trends like revolutions.
But since the media isn’t covering it, most people have no idea how much is happening. That is, until HitlerPig and The MAGA Morons hit the stage and start puking all over everybody. THAT makes the news, and now EVERYBODY knows about the protests.
Somebody should explain the Streisand Effect to these jokers.
I don’t understand why these protests so often end up with people destroying cars and shop windows - and then, in many cases, looting as well. Whatever legitimate cause you may have had loses credibility pretty quickly after that, and it becomes hard to sympathize with the protesters, let alone criticize the riot police for stepping in. A cynic might say that some are just looking for an excuse to cause havoc.
It’s a case of a few opportunists ruining it for the many. As with football celebrations, street parties, or anything. It’s a damn shame that their greed ruins the legitimacy of protesting though
I mean, many don’t. I’m not even sure there was any mention of property damage except to police/Ice vehicles/equipment prior to the police escalation.
However now they they’ve escalated and brought in the national guard, started shooting and tear gassing people, and more it seems things have escalated.
The real question is - “if these communities are protecting these people so fiercely, where is the mandate to deport them with such force?”
Waymo is owned by Google. Who cares?
Looting small businesses will always be fucked. Haven’t seen that yet with these protests.
Who cares?
The people outside your bubble.
I have seen people looting an AM/PM in one of the live feeds of what’s going on. But it didn’t look like they were actual protestors, either. Just people taking advantage of the situation. Plus it’s AM/PM; you know how much good stuff they have? Too much! They’re just helping them get down to a reasonable amount of good stuff.
ILLEGAL.
as if it even matters.
Isn’t there a law against this? Not that Cheetoface cares about those…
This took less than 3 days.
Less than 3 days of mild protest in one city and Trump is saying the governor needs to be arrested and is using the military against civilians.
This wasn’t even classed as a riot.
This weekend is the totally not celebrating the rapist in chief’s birthday military parade.
There are… a LOT of concerns that is just an excuse to militarize DC ahead of midterms.
But yeah. That also means trump wants protests to go away NOW and an excuse to attack California always makes him happy.
Hasn’t there been national guard, and a literal wall around the white house for the last decade?
There are military resources available and heightened security around the white house. In a country where children either buy an AR-15 or get shot by one, that only goes so far.
Contrast that with an actively deployed and on guard… guard. Protests in DC will become next to impossible and “dissenting” congress people will be much less likely to ever try to get a photo op while pretending they care about stopping doge et al.
That’s because it was nothing on Saturday. Trump sends in the National Guard and they make a lot of smoke. There were 3 or so waymo fires and some cop cars damaged. Protesters were hit by rubber bullets a lot though.
See for yourself.
Saturdays Live Streams:
- NBCLA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MfqiO3QQk
- ABC7- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdPTnHNEUiE
Sunday’s Live Streams:
- AP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXT945ZJNCI
- Reuters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSNMZEjRBsk
- Agenda-Free TV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BrsI2vVHKA
- AXN News (?) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmwdCmOkdQ
This makes sense because establishing a beachhead on Iwo Jima and managing a rowdy crowd are similar skills
Kinda seems like the US has gone to war with her citizens: what with the deploying of troops against them and all. Maybe her citizens should start acting like they are at war.
Too bad there are no cases in history of a guerrilla force standing their own against the “undefeated” US military. /s
us citizens are too fucking stupid to do anything truly substantial about it.
Well, I recently bought two guns and tons of ammo in preparation.
So have a few friends of mine in the last few months. And I know we aren’t the only ones.
If this administration wants a war, they’ll get it, but they will not win.
California didn’t accidentally become wealthy. Lots of smart & capable people there, albeit with much to lose.
They’ll reasonably try to keep a lid on things, but there’s a line not too far from where Californians have currently gotten pushed to.
Ooh will we see the 95-99 percent hire mercenaries to fight the 1%'s mercenaries?
Is this gonna be a proxy civil war?
No.
Officially using the military against civilians. Yup we’re cooked
There are several historical examples where a dictator tells the military to shoot civilians, they say no, and the regime collapses.
The world is also filled with governments that ordered the military to shoot civilians and are still comfortably in power. No country is immune to authoritarianism, the US is not exceptional.
The US is just exceptionally good at being a dictatorship.
part of the problem is this absurdly naive optimism everyone has. people need to start being more fucking pessemistic and angry.
On the contrary, people are pessimistic as hell. Source: this thread.
Yeah, really if anything we need optimistic and angry
those don’t go hand in hand. ever.
Don’t worry. All the heroic men and women in the armed services will decide THIS oppression of a civilian populace is too much and some of the officers will resign. Then, in just a decade or so, they’ll have O-5s who are only qualified to be O-3s and it will all come crashing down! And if you disagree, you are just a doomer!
Yeah… This does not end well in any conceivable way.
Congress could end this immediately, by revoking Trump’s emergency powers. Spineless traitors the whole lot of them.
Did Trump declare martial law while I was asleep? Because last time I checked, he can’t deploy the military on US soil unless the country is in a state of emergency. And peaceful protests don’t count.
Until one of the other branches of government decides to grow a spine, Trump is free to do whatever he wants.
Or the people.
he doesn’t need to apparently.
Well, he IS the king of America (and Canada, Panama and Greenland), so why would he need approval?
I don’t condone deploying the military, its illegal, but burning waymo’s isn’t peaceful.
The people setting those fires should absolutely be charged for their actions. But their actions don’t negate the Constitutional rights of everyone else who is protesting. And calling in the National guard before the local authorities have declared the situation to be out of their control, is a direct violation of Constitutional law.
Agreed that the national guard shouldn’t have been deployed as well. I’m just saying they aren’t peaceful.
But, when you say, “they”…you are painting the entire protest as violent, unless you make the distinction that it isn’t. And the vast majority of protestors are simply exercising their 1st amendment rights, in a perfectly legal manner.
I never said they were violent, I haven’t heard of anything violent (edit: from the protesters) yet personally. There’s a difference between peaceful, not peaceful, and violent.
If there’s enough bad actors doing things like setting cars on fire, then it warrants a larger police presence (but not the national guard at this level or ever the military)
Edit: Just to add clarity, it warrants a larger police presence, because they are in fact no longer peaceful. Sure most people are, but the protest itself isn’t.
Impressive how the troll farms always manage to put one “yeah people were hurt but what about property?!” in every thread about our pigs.
