Tesla told Austin workers on its Model Y and Cybertruck lines to stay home for the week of Memorial Day, three workers told Business Insider.
The break is unusually long, the workers said. Production lines were up and running during the same period last year, they said.
The electric vehicle maker notified employees earlier this week. The workers, who are paid hourly, were told they could either take paid time off or come in for cleaning and training but would not be working on the production line.
Tesla deliveries dropped 13% year over year during the first quarter.
Uh oh!
ETA - I look at Tesla’s stock and scratch my head. Still way too fucking high. It should come down to about 1/20th of where it is at. Toyota P/E ratio - 8.29. Tesla’s: 161.22.
I mean…WTAF. There is some serious delusion going on with that stock price. Tesla’s “brand” is in the xitter. Are people just hoping that the U.S. government will prop them up at this point? Without extreme market manipulation by the likes of donvict, what other future does this shitty car company have?
Tesla will announce their new military grade model that the defense will purchase thousands of cars using tax money.
I mean, maybe that’s a good thing for any future resistance movement? The powers that be using highly flammable / explosive, unreliable, piece of shit glued together trucks that can’t handle a carwash.
Yea pretty obvious. I need a car and Tesla would be a good choice if that fucking asshole didn’t own it.
Good choice? They keep bait and switching their own features, and their QC is garbage. Take Elon out of the equation and I still won’t buy their early access version of a car. I’m tired of companies treating end consumers as their play testers.
On top of that they’re all privacy nightmares
Same. They sent me a survey for owning my 3 for so long. In the survey I pretty much gave the car good reviews. Then it asked me if I would buy another and pretty much stated I would not buy another tesla if Elon musk is part of the company. I doubt anyone reads the surveys but hey here’s to hoping. 🗿
You’ve contributed to the word cloud, thats all you need
Tesla = Pinto
Someone already did the math and the rolling garbage can is even worst than the infamous Pinto.
I’ve been arguing the Q1 result was cooked already from day 1 they came out. The actual result is probably way worse. One of the reasons is that Tesla has been producing way to many cars, and the cars on stock are overvalued to push the deficit into the future. Where they probably hope to camouflage the loss in other ways.
But competition is intensifying, and Tesla is already at a very low margin on each car sold. Increased competition is at a point where Tesla will have to sell cars at a deficit. While at the same time write off value on stock. Or alternatively lose even more marketshare.
The glory days where Tesla had the highest margin per car sold in the industry are long gone.Yes, all that, but the effect of Elon completely alienating the people who wanted to buy Teslas can’t be understated. I don’t hate the cars at all, but my god I loathe Elon and would never give him money.
Absolutely, if Elon had been a normal CEO, Tesla would probably still be riding on the reputation they had few years ago.
What I’m saying is that it will be hard for Tesla to make a comeback, even if they somehow manage to restore the name.
They are no longer a technology leader, and they aren’t leading on value either, which makes Tesla just one among many options.
And it seems they can’t keep up with the competition anymore, now that the traditional auto makers have learned the basics of making a good EV. And China is so far ahead on batteries and Fast Charging it isn’t even funny.
Both BYD and CATL have batteries that can charge 3 times faster than the fastest Tesla!In USA Tesla is protected by tariffs, So USA has lower competition, but in Europe and China, I don’t think Tesla has much of a future, (EU has 3 times as many BEV models to choose from than USA!) and even USA will be a a huge uphill struggle, because they have such poor brand recognition.
I don’t think Musk can turn Tesla around, the claimed options to do that are RoboTaxi, and AI and robots. But Tesla is not even close to be leading in any of those fields. So Tesla will be a company with huge R&D costs, but little money coming in. Unless Musk can keep conning new investors of course.The little Ford EV hatchback they sell in Europe is a lot more attractive than a Tesla personally. I just wish we could get them in the US, but the CEOs have apparently decided by fiat (hah) that no small cars are desired.
The Focus is AFAIK discontinued, but maybe you mean the Puma?
The Puma Gen-E is what I was thinking of, could’ve sworn it was a 2-door though. Must’ve confused it with something else.
That’s a cool car IMO, but personally we want something with better range.
It is quite impressive in efficiency though 13.1 kWh/100 km. And it is decent for fast charging.Why?
Every vehicle doesn’t need to do everything. Otherwise we’d all buy turbocharged Hummers with a trailer for extra fuel. It’d be nice to have some middle ground between a smartcar that confined to surface streets and something you’d take a roadtrip in. A worst-case ~150-200 mile range is enough for a boatload of people to commute 50 miles and not have to worry. If you can plug it in overnight, even on just 120v, charging speed is a negligible concern.
I think a lot of range anxiety is weird. A lot of gas cars from the 80s/90s/00s have ~300/400 mile range per tank, but that’s because you don’t want to go to a gas station every day. If you could just trickle in gas overnight they could’ve had much smaller tanks too.
“You’re making that up.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_Electric
Production December 2011 – May 2018
But the Focus is the only hatchback I could think of.
Sorry, it was a joke from the old machinima Red vs Blue. There’s a truck called the Warthog and someone suggests it looks like a Puma. Another person says “you’re making that up”.
It’s at 1:46 https://youtu.be/Rju4RWdEyZk
That was far too old a reference to drop casually. My bad.
The brand can recover if they remove Musk but I’ll never support it cause the Nazi will still get his cake from w.e cars get sold.
Down with Tesla
Now, do the same for all MAGA.
This wouldn’t explain the CT line, but they’re going to release 2 new vehicles by June 30th that use the same line as the Model Y/3. They did upgrades for that during the model y changeover. It could be the final changes before they are released, but again, that doesn’t explain the CT.
I’m predicting the breaking news story for June 2nd is they find out they’re fired.
Happened to me there, though not as long. Friday, they told everyone on the line I worked on (S) most of us were being let go, but a few of us (myself included) were told we were staying. Fast-forward to Monday, they called me while half-way to work (this was in Fremont and I live in the central valley, so it was a 2 hour drive without traffic; which is never going to happen on the Altamonte) to say they actually let everyone go.
I am a cynical bastard, and I wonder if they told everyone that they were one of the people not being let go, then contacted them later to tell them everyone was being laid off.
It gives the workers a -temporary- feeling of relief. Which could stop a riot etc etc.
And it’s so very dishonestly devious that it’s deffo something that Felon Mucks would do, just because he can.Nah; like the first part where they said who was leaving and who was staying on was in person at the factory. Like a “stand over here if your name is called” thing.
That really sucks. I’m not sorry for Tesla, but I’m sorry for the workers caught up in the shit show.
a real George Bluth Sr. move
Fire Tom, and get your jackass brother out of here.
So an indefinite furlough… got it.
Maybe one more Trump commercial in front of the white house might break the spell
Still waiting for those rushed Boeing Air Force Ones to start flying the Trump & DOGE around…
The beginning of the end
Absolutely, but you could also say that beginning was a year ago, where Tesla sales began to slump.
Remember when we hear about poor sales this year compared to 2024, that 2024 was already a bad year for Tesla!It was probably when their “founder” did two Nazi salutes on stage at the inauguration of the President of the United States.
For USA absolutely, for Germany and EU that and supporting AfD, for China no.
The biggest sales declines are in EU and China.THIS!☝️
A great time to form a union!
Definitely because no one’s buying them. Elon is not generous with time off.
It’s not paid time off.
Edit: I used to work a salary position in Texas. On slow days it was common to tell the hourly employees we had nothing for them right now and to go home. The salary employees always had something to do.
They can “take” paid time off, meaning their few vacation days being used because of the failure of the company. Or they can come in to clean lmao.
Looks like they arent paying their workers for the time either. Sounds like things are going really well there. I wonder if the workers who fall below 32 hours per week will get their full time benefits (like health care) cut. I’d bet yes.
Or come in for training and cleaning. So they can still be paid.
The article says it is paid…
Edit: TIL that PTO means different in the US. Thanks for the explanations and downvotes 👍
The workers, who are paid hourly, were told they could either take paid time off or come in for cleaning and training but would not be working on the production line.
That wording is ambiguous, but given the alternative is “come in and do cleaning” my guess is “take paid time off” means workers have to burn their own vacation time if they don’t want to lose money. Otherwise, who in their right mind would volunteer to work if the company is offering paid furlough?
Yeah they’re not getting paid. I’ve been in a similar situation.
Also “give my employees paid time at home while business is slow” sounds exactly like the kind of magnanimity that Elon lacks.
Yeah, he’s not going to let those lazy workers get paid for just sitting around at home, even if this whole debacle is entirely his fault.
They likely have a lower salary for cleaning or training, often 2/3 or 1/2 of normal from my experience.
The article says it is paid…
Yes but in USA words don’t mean what they say, they are merely spin on something worse.
It actually means UNPAID time off, in normal human speak, but you can take some of your holiday and get paid for that.This would of course be illegal in EU and many other places, so an easy mistake to make unless you are brought up with the craziness of USA.
The article says it is paid…
Well, yes and no. I mean, they get a paycheck if they use paid time off, but they’d need to use some of their supply of that, which is going to compete with things like time off for being sick, going on vacation, etc.
Imagine having a set number of days for being sick…
Better not get sick more than usual or you fucked, what a country, the american dream
Take paid time off (PTO) means take your vacation time (or combined vacation/sick time). Otherwise no one would pick the “come in and clean or train” option.
I once worked at a place where every year they shut down the week between Christmas and New Year’s and you had to take a week of your vacation time then whether you wanted to or not (and we only got 2 weeks/yr). I started working there the first week of December, so I was immediately in the hole for 1 week of vacation time. It was such bullshit.
It could be worse, it could be the opposite. My brothers company does plant shutdowns in December and January, partly because too many people want off to keep the lines moving. However that’s also when they do maintenance, when they update the lines for new products, which my brothers company does does.
So, is it better to have forced vacation in December and January so the plant can shut down, or mandatory work Christmas week and Fourth of July week because you’re the guy updating the lines?
Tesla must Unionize!
One of the reasons they moved to Texas was to prevent that.
Why? Are Texans stupid?
“Hey Patrick, What am I now?”
“Uh Stupid?”
“No, I’m Texas!”
This SpongeBob joke has lived rent free in my head since I was a literal toddler.
Yes
Awe.
Are you in awe of how stupid they are?
No 😂
Just disappointed I guess. I was hoping for a better answer.
You are in awe of how disappointed you are?
They elect stupid people. Also shitty people. Their labor laws are horribly anti-worker/very pro- company.
Because there’s a regulatory environment there that is deeply hostile to unions.
Why? There really isn’t a path to profitability now. The brand is dead internationally and domestically.
Yeah, but Musk hates unions. The swedes are making a big point out of unionizing.
