Originally this was a reply to this article about a Windows feature called Recall, but there’s a good argument the author’s concerns resonate far beyond Windows and Meta to proprietary generally.

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    At some point we need to start welcoming people to the Light, instead of demonizing them for having been in the Dark. It’s pretty difficult for me not to dunk on people as they wake up to the nightmare that they voted for, but a lot them ARE actually otherwise decent folks. Making America Great is going to involve deprogramming a lot of people.

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      That’s all good and well and I agree with you, but I also believe if you have and are continuing to feed the machine, then you don’t get to be put on a pedestal or respected for recognizing how bad the machine is. This person is repeating something that is already very well known and accepted and is simultaneously adding to the alarm while causing it. I have extremely low patience for that particular brand of person. They are continuing to cause the problem they are rallying against.

      If I were face to face with this person, I’d genuinely say “either quit working there or shut the fuck up.”

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        I wonder if employees of evil corporations reading your comment are more likely to quit or chill their speech


        I hope that at least one whistleblower stays employed at every evil corp

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        What about when it’s your family? I am estranged from a lot of people that I care deeply for because they refuse to engage with reason. I’m not trying to put anyone on a pedestal, good or bad.

        I just want people to know that they are welcome to change their minds, nobody is going to mock them for doing so, or say I told you so. That’s what they expect, and pride is part of what holds many of them back from admitting that they were wrong. Because it’s what they would do. Unfortunately, we’re going to need to take the high road.

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          The predestal/respect bit in my comment was about this post as a whole. IMO, the screenshotted person does not deserve to be paid attention to. They are not revealing anything new by any means while choosing to make the problem worse.

          I don’t know what anyone being in my family has to do with anything. My response is the same: if you are unhappy enough to complain out loud about something you are helping cause, either do something about it or shut the fuck up.

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          I just want people to know that they are welcome to change their minds, nobody is going to mock them for doing so, or say I told you so.

          JSYK: I and many others are putting great effort into letting them know that they’re not welcome, because Nazis who voted for this wanted this, no excuses at campaign #3. They can either die or live in obscurity until they do, period. The time they were allowed back was pre-24 election, simple as

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              Agree that person would certainly be an over generalizer. What’s the Nazi part about it from your perspective?

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                Idk man I’m just upset about my family and jealous of people that don’t have to deal with writing off roughly half the people they care about.

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                  Oh goodness JB… that is awful, people close to you succumbing to the expertly-crafted lies of powerful, malicious goons.

                  Really sorry to hear that. Neither this country nor our people were educated or prepared for this, broadly speaking.

                  Our defenses were so low, I had no idea. I knew we were sucking eggs in education and healthcare and all kinds of things, but I didn’t know we would be susceptible to this kind of Heritage Foundation attack in a post-decorum world.


                  I branched out there but anyway, really sorry to know bad people exploited us and left you unable to live a key part of your life in the way you deserve 🖤

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                    I really can’t tell if you’re being an asshole or not. These are people I grew up around, admiring some of. The uncle I fished with and his son, my cousin, currently beyond reach. I spent every summer with them. It’s heartbreaking. Am I going to cave and let them back in without some kind of ‘come to Jesus’ moment? No, but I am willing to let them admit that they were wrong, successfully lied to, and become welcome members of the family again, because I’m not a monster and neither are they. I don’t think they genuinely believe half of the shit they spout, but do it to fit in. They never had an opinion about immigrants or trans people until it was fed to them. They were just happy hicks doing normal happy hick shit.