• null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    My point is, that oat milk lattes are not the “best” lattes, they’re oily not creamy, and that the flavor of oats does not align with coffee.

    I’m diabetic and have to avoid lactose too, amongst many other things.

    Oat milk might be a fine beverage, if you’re into oily watery horse food, but a substitute for proper milk it is not.

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        3 days ago

        Not really. It’s a mammalian excretion that has literally been refined over millions of years to deliver an infants nutritional requirements.

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          I drink milk, but milk isn’t superior to oat milk.

          mammal milk has specific ingredients that are meant to specifically feed infants of that animal. So its often high in fat and has specific things that are meant to be digested by that animal. Breast milk from a human has special ingredients that help digest the high lactose content and those ingredients are not in other milks.

          Now Oats have been designed over years to be digested by humans and other animals. They propagate by being consumed and then travel to other areas post consumption. The nutrition in oats and other vegetables is mostly there specifically to drive animals like us to eat them so that we propagate them.

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            Of course proper milk is superior to oat milk.

            If you were stuck on a desert island and could have an infinite supply of either it would be an absurdity to choose the oat milk over cows milk.

            It’s true that cows milk is intended for calves and it’s probably not advisable for an adult human to consume exclusively cows milk, but it’s an absurdity to claim that cows milk is less nutritionally valuable than oat milk.

            Oats have been domesticated by humans over a few short millennia because of their ease of cultivation and longevity in storage. Lets not conflate convenience with nutritional quality. Besides which oat milk doesn’t contain much in the way of oats anyway.

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              Of course proper milk is superior to oat milk.

              In terms of ecological footprint it really isn’t. There, cow milk or any other animal milk is waaay worse than oat milk.

              Furthermore, doesn’t oat milk usually have a higher shelf life than typical animal milk like those from cows?

              Lets not conflate convenience with nutritional quality.

              As far as I know the one thing that cow milk has in terms of better nutritional quality compared to oat milk for example are high quality proteins, covering all essential amino acids. However, if you are not dependend on that intake of protein by drinking a glass of milk each day, due to other protein sources in your diet, then there is not really much more value to cow milk. Since soy milk has a higher amount of protein than oat milk, one could also prefer that over cow milk, which would still lower carbon emissions. Not as much as with oat milk though.

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              3 days ago

              Given the percentage of lactose intolerance, in some cultures as high as 100 percent and globally at 65 percent, for most people you would have to be an idiot to choose cows milk.

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                2 days ago

                You’re talking about malabsorbtion, not intolerance, which is not the same. Most people with the former do not suffer from the latter.

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                    2 days ago

                    God this is tedious.

                    Of those 65% you’re describing as “lactose intolerant”, only a small percentage would suffer symtoms commonly associated with lactose intolerance deleterious enough to make flavored oily water a better source of nutrition than cows milk.

                    In any case, while I look forward to your parting salvo of blistering intellect and insight, I believe I have said all I care to regarding grain-based milk substitutes for the time being. Good day.

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      3 days ago

      You’re trying really hard to be objectively correct about this silliness. No wonder there’s a stigma about coffee snobs.

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        I’m not trying to be objectively correct at all.

        It’s just really easy to make fun of people who drink poncy “milk” because everyone secretly wants it to be some magical elixir delicately squeezed from the nipples of plump little oats tended by fat little bumble bees in Tasmania.