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    Of course proper milk is superior to oat milk.

    In terms of ecological footprint it really isn’t. There, cow milk or any other animal milk is waaay worse than oat milk.

    Furthermore, doesn’t oat milk usually have a higher shelf life than typical animal milk like those from cows?

    Lets not conflate convenience with nutritional quality.

    As far as I know the one thing that cow milk has in terms of better nutritional quality compared to oat milk for example are high quality proteins, covering all essential amino acids. However, if you are not dependend on that intake of protein by drinking a glass of milk each day, due to other protein sources in your diet, then there is not really much more value to cow milk. Since soy milk has a higher amount of protein than oat milk, one could also prefer that over cow milk, which would still lower carbon emissions. Not as much as with oat milk though.

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          this relies on poore-nemecek 2018. I don’t find this to be a good source. do you have another?

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            Bullshit that it is not a good source, there is wide scientific consensus dairy is much more taxing for the environment. Only valid counter argument is that milk has more nutritional value, but this can easily be fixed by adding additional ingredients.

            This graph shows soy is the clear winner across the board if you set off protein to g co2, but purely per glass cow milk is much more taxing for the environment as both graphs show

            https://www.wri.org/insights/milks-environmental-impact

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              this analysis suffers from the same flawed methodology present in poore_nemecek 2018: they combine LCA studies, which cannot be done because the data is gathered using disparate methodology. to make matters worse, they didn’t actually do all his work themselves; they pulled in poore-nemecek as one of their references.

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                  I don’t need sources to be skeptical. you made a claim. I’m asking you to support that claim with good science.

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                  The sources are in the references to the papers that you’re presenting. The LCA studies themselves often come with a warning that it shouldn’t be combined with other LCA studies, but poore-nemecek actually took an even lazier approach were they compiled meta studies that were ignoring this guidance and didn’t actually source many if any LCA studies themselves. when reading the meta studies that they gathered, you can see that all of them say that LCA guidance discourages combining studies as they have done, but they’re just going to do it anyway.

                  it’s bad science.