Bwahaha!

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    Just wait until they stop enforcing safety measures and mines start collapsing.

    Think Trump’s going to send feds to dig you out??

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    West Virginia boasts the highest coal production per capita in the United States. Living as a descendant of Italian immigrants that moved to the US midwest to mine coal, I’m pissed but this is what a majority of modern miners voted for. We may as well go back to the days of coal miners being the exploited labor of millionaires(billionaires).

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      I don’t know if you can claim that map represents miners. I wouldn’t be surprised, but also there are essentially no mining jobs in WV anymore. They’re sold propaganda of coal jobs helping people, because a lot of people used to make a living from it (however horrible it was). I have a lot of family in WV and I know zero coal miners. Now it’s just machines working Joe Manchin’s mines, so 100% of them could have voted D and it wouldn’t make a dent in that data.

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    Don’t they know, trump did CLEAN COAL , all the coal is clean because of CLEAN COAL and you can’t get black lung from CLEAN COAL

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    According to donnie dumbass, these people would rather be mining (and have black lung) than have a penthouse on Fifth Avenue.

    I have a great-grandfather that died from black lung. Fuck donvict. I wonder how many of the coal miners that were used as stage props for the asshat Felon-in-Chief had any choice in the matter.

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    When you get infected by the broke mind virus, the rest of your body goes down the sewer along with it, too, unsurprisingly.

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    Human variation is natural and healthy for society thru 99.9999999999% of human evolution.

    If a bear just showed up and ate a dude, everyone would die if they just stayed hidden forever because they’re scared of the bear.

    So it’s completely normal to have some percent of the population have a total refuse to take potential consequences seriously, they were the expendables who went out first and loudly shout “if a bear was still here, why isn’t it eating me?”.

    The issue with modern society is we no longer let the idiots risk their lives and die. So society as a whole doesn’t get those reminders that negative consequences are real. And those idiots get to live to old age, and not only refuse to take consequences seriously, but they insist everyone else does the same thing.

    It’s just one of the many ways humans didn’t evolve for modern society and why modern history just keeps going thru the same loop.

    You might not think of the 1500s as a technologically advance nanny state, but it is compared to before clothes when taking a shit at most involved pausing for a few minutes before continuing about your day.

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      The issue isn’t whether people should be allowed to risk their lives—it’s whether people should be allowed to make other people chose between risking their lives or risking their livelihoods.

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        You can’t have both in anything resembling a democracy…

        If stupid people live, stupid people vote. Because stupid people think they’re smart.

        The more we protect the dumbest the larger percentage of voters they make up

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          This is propaganda, this programming. We’re supposed to care about education, because education and media literacy is your key out of poverty and your key to understanding things. Republicans overwhelmingly pushed “Traditional Christian Values” as an excuse to axe education and science literacy throughout the 2000’s. These are the poor people you’re supposed to want to help, but the division created by this absurd “culture war” created by corporate and social media has conditioned you to believe otherwise. Propaganda works, just as they are conditioned to fear, which leads to anger. To hate, which leads to suffering. They see everything they don’t immediately understand as a threat. So too, are we pushed into ideas of superiority, as if we are better than them. That they’re irredeemable and the cause of our life’s woes. Positioning this as anything less than an attack on the working class by the wealthy elite as they seize power across the world is just playing into their hands. It is ignorant and it is wrong. We must defeat the corporatists who have robbed us of our wealth, our unity and our civil discourse. You see how many people turned out in Idaho, for Bernie Sanders of all people. The working class recognise that the Trump administration does not represent them. It is not about right or left, it has never been about right and left it is always wealthy elites positioning the majority against eachother, while they continue to rob us blind, devalue our currency and stoke the flames of societal collapse. Do not entertain it, do not comply.

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              If stupid people live, stupid people vote. Because stupid people think they’re smart.

              The irony is more than enough for me, thank you.

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                Yep, I flat out said it, and it didnt stop it from happening at all

                Even from people who don’t know how to o make multiple paragraphs…

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              Seems to me you’re trying to use some evolutionary, survival-of-the-fittest just-so story to argue that society shouldn’t take care of the less fortunate people, including those who vote for Trump because they’re not so smart. It’s a very fascist sounding position. In fact, most attempts to draw lessons for modern society from more or less cooked up evolutionary history are just right-wing propaganda dressed in a sciencey frock.

              If you have time to watch a long but entertaining video about this subject, I recommend this one:

              https://youtu.be/31e0RcImReY

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                society shouldn’t take care of the less fortunate people,

                Nope.

                Saying that if one person dies from drunk driving without a seatbelt at highschool …

                The rest of the kids tend to wear a seatbelt and not drunk drive for a while.

                Because they have the negative consequence example.

                Without those examples, a lot more stop caring about negative consequences.

                It’s not that complicated, but I can admit that a lot of people seem to be confused by my comment.

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        Or make a rule that bosses have to try out everything they suggest for others first, let them Darwin award themselves instead of others

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          I mean if they are gonna get rid of all the safety regulations, they should lead by example. I’m MSHA and OSHA certified and lemme tell ya, those regulations are there for a very good reason.

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            I give it 6 months before we hear about a 14 year old working a double shift gets killed in a mine or factory.

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      I’m going to invite you to another angle, and it’s one with a premise that people are still scratching their heads over – forewarning: no matter how honest or objective you try to be about these subjects, this is one of those things where you can’t have a public discussion about it and come out unscathed. Even if people don’t really have a formed opinion of their own. All well.

      Natural selection is still taking place. It was never about “idiots” dying off. That’s a bit of a misconception. So let’s drop that rhetoric – even if you wish to keep that opinion. Remember that people can still have plenty of children before doing something terribly stupid and then dying as a result.

      In fact, natural selection is in overdrive and stronger than ever. Once you try to grapple with that you’ll need a few more pieces to see a more clear picture of why I believe this. Now, for you down voters: I’m not advocating an idea here --even natural selection-- or stating facts so much as trying to understand and communicate the way I see things. If you can’t understand the nuance in that, then feel free to continue – the button is below.

      I’ll begin by addressing the drivers of modern natural selection in the order of what I believe to be the most impactful. Beware that none of this is to discredit or find fault in either men or women – but the concept of natural selection, and all of its woes, are directly tied to having successfully reproduced.

      1. Women now have more access to information and communication tools than ever, and that’s a good thing – as are women. I shouldn’t have to state that I believe these to be good things, but here we are. Women are, now more than ever, demanding more value from life at all angles. Including, if not especially, men.

      2. Social Media. All these things are tied to my first point. Women, especially younger women, have a better idea of the sorts of things they desire to the point where it will even cause them to feel a decline in their well-being for not having access to it. This may help inform them in a way that they develop other life goals or objectives, rather than participating in a less than desirable relationship.

      3. Family Traditions: Less women are being forced into marriages, whether the marriage is arranged or simply obeying their families desire to marry as the families see fit. Self agency – good.

      4. Everything else. There are many more drivers – including things not related to women, I just covered what I believe to be the top three – I feel I need to state here again, none of this is to blame or find fault in anyone – man or woman, or anyone else. It’s simply an attempt to try to make sense of the world around me.

      Why I believe the above can be evidenced by a couple of simple metrics: a steep decline in birth rates across most of the world, and the male loneliness epidemic. This may not fit comfortably into the idea that death is the main driver of natural selection, but as I’ve already stated, I never believed that it was. Whether natural selection is the correct model to fit this world view into or not and the unpopularity of that model; that would be a different discussion altogether and I’d rather just fit this into the framework of the discussion than have a disclaimer before every sentence for internet points, as I feel I’ve already had to add too many.

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        Nonsense, Big Tech propaganda. Of course evolution is ongoing. Every point outside of that is wrong. The REAL reason everything is so expensive. Why we can’t afford housing, or food. Why birth rates are declining. The thing that is driving inflation is all because of wealth inequality. If I purchase from Amazon.co.uk in the UK from a UK retailer. The United Kingdom sees no tax. Because, for the purposes of that transaction Amazon is in Sweden. Any transaction to Meta and again the residents countries see NO tax, because for that purpose, Meta are in Ireland. These companies collect money across every denomination, from every country on Earth and they pay NO TAX. This forces the central banks of every nation to print more money which drives up inflation. Creating Further poverty, homelessness and enslaving us to their propaganda.

        Did you notice after COVID how every bank machine became a smart device that runs android? One with cameras on both sides. What about how clock in machines became android tablets that take your picture when you clock in and out? Why do they need to take your picture? Smart watches record your biometric data and send it to Apple, or Google. I mean, look at the cognitive dissonance. You can’t talk on your handset in the car but every new vehicle comes with a giant screen in the centre console that runs either IOS/Android. Every new security camera is a wifi camera which runs Android. Why does a CCTV camera need to have an internet connection? Every checkout machine runs android, records your grocery list and records you, while it takes your picture and your card information. The phones are always listening always recording. Google have just bought the data from Europe, by paying the fines. That’s why they went after Germany and had Merz elected. They want to dismantle any and all privacy protections left after the passing of the AI Act in Brussels. But why? Curtis Yarvin, mentor to JD Vance and Close personal friend of Peter Thiel wrote about his desire to “Virtualise non-productive people as a humane alternative to genocide” under the pen name Mencius Moldbug in 2008. That is what they want for the rest of us, to die dehydrated and starving while we live out the rest of our lives virtually, through generative AI and it has been All over popular media for decades. AI exists to spy on everything you do and to silence dissent. So they can easily search the gargantuan database they have collected on all of humanity by saying “Hey Gemini/Grok/DuckAI/Leo/Copilot etc. Is anyone out there expressing dissatisfaction with the regime?”

        None of it returns to circulation. In addition unlike a company like Honda, who produce tangible goods as capital and pay many workers. Big tech comparatively employ very few. So even less of that money is reintroduced to circulation. In the case where they do employ a sizeable number of employees, the ones they have horrendous working conditions, as is the case with Amazons factory workers. The same Amazon whose CEO owns The Wall Street Journal, which has been warming America up to the re-legalisation of child labour. Because the only jobs that will be brought back to America will be the sweatshop jobs, families will need to have their children employed in, in order to survive. This is why Elon Musk said a “Single World Government” would destroy society at the world economic forum. Because if we banded together as nations and said no more we could demand that these companies pay taxes back into the economies they steal from. We need to Tax Wealth, not work. If we were wise, we’d all install linux. divest ourselves from all of their properties, reject AI and buy flip phones. Make no mistake, this is global terrorism, of the highest order. It is the plot to take over the entire world. Natural selection? Have you seen how Rupert Murdoch, Elon Musk and Marcus Andressen look? Hardly poster children for “survival of the fittest.” Billionaires have a mental illness, they never have to work for anything, so they inherently have no personal value in anything. It is the deification of money. The loneliness epidemic exists because of how addictive they made their platforms. That’s it, youtube, facebook, instagram, google search, x all of them. Just pieces in the same feudalistic, data harvesting radicalisation machine. Nothing else.

        First America, then the rest of us. We have the choice to stop, we do not have to obey.

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      you said it horribly, but i think i’m picking up what you’re putting down.

      but - for the sake of internet arguments - i have to pick out one sentence:

      “The issue with modern society is we no longer let the idiots risk their lives and die.”

      before i continue, are you sure you stand by that statement?

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        before i continue, are you sure you stand by that statement?

        When stripped of all context, no.

        Which should be obvious, but so should blocking anyone that legitimately says:

        but - for the sake of internet arguments

        Especially when talking about a serious subject

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      The problem with this concept is idiots often take other people out with them. No amount of genius or evolutionary superiority is going to protect you from a drunken idiot crashing into you driving 120mph.

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      This is eugenics. Now who decides who the idiots are? It’s a dangerous game when you let someone else decide what’s stupid and what isn’t.

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        Weren’t you paying attention?

        The idiots are the ones willing to risk their lives and potentially die.