Not just a specific scene, or episode, but characters repeatedly surviving when they shouldn’t.

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      2 months ago

      The bringing back wasn’t the problem, it’s what they did with them once they were back. It should mean something, and not dull down the character.

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        6 days ago

        I think bringing back is the problem because at that point we establish that not even death is permanent

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          Yes, but with others coming back has a cost. Beric Dondarrion is the first in mind, who loses memory each time he’s brought back, and in the book presents the idea that remaining alive requires some life force that runs out even with the resurrected (based on what happens).

          Of course none of this happens to Jon…well, maybe it does, as would explain why he acts so out of character as things close. He must have died again in the final seasons off screen.

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            5 days ago

            I just don’t like the idea of losing that permanence, even when it comes at a cost

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        2 months ago

        Yeah in a land of magic and drangons and stuff, it could’ve even be cool. He could come back wrong or corrupted or whatever. But it was just fan service. They didn’t even know what to do with him. They didn’t even bring him back to kill frozone

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          It is just up until that point, any form of danger or any combat was a real threat. To any character. Nobody was really / obviously plot protected at that point which created a lot of the tension and engagement for me. That all was lost once ppl. were no-longer permanently dead. Any danger thereafter would never feel the same. It got worse once it was super clear who is the main character.

          Side note: Didn’t the author criticise LotR for bringing Gandalf back? The audacity ಠ_ಠ