Israeli forces have been accused of executing handcuffed Palestinian medics before burying them in a mass grave underneath their crushed ambulances in southern Gaza’s Rafah.

Fifteen humanitarian workers went missing last week after responding to a distress call from civilians being attacked by Israeli forces.

The workers include eight paramedics from the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS), six members of the Palestinian Civil Defence search-and-rescue teams, and one UN staff member.

They were found over the weekend in a mass grave with at least around 20 multiple gunshots in each one of them, according to Mahmoud Basal, spokesperson for the Palestinian Civil Defence in Gaza.

At least one of them had their legs bound, another was decapitated and a third topless, he added.

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    If the IDF scum are ever held to account, the decent people of the world should next go after their own leaders for blindly supporting these atrocities and not stopping them earlier. The genocide of the Palestinians is a blight on many western so-called liberal democracies.

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    But their shills in the West will make sure that if you raise your voice, depending on your legal status, you will be slandered, roughed up by police, have your degree revoked, snatched up from your family or in the middle of the street, and deported.

    And they will use the charge of antisemitism as a cudgel, all the while playing into all the worst antisemitic tropes and preparing the ground for the next round of actual antisemitic violence.

    Zionism hurts Palestinians first, people who stand up for humanity second, all Jews third. It’s a shit ideology.

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    Israel is literally kidnapping, raping, and assaulting civilians. by the thousands as they attempt to surrender. Beating them until they either agree they are Hamas or die, and then killing them anyway.

    I get why the US government is down with that, many of our politicians are old people that love rape and genocide especially via proxy, since they can’t do it themselves anymore. It’s just really annoying that the same people ranting about wanting to protect women have spent the most money and time getting them tortured, raped, and killed.

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    Fucking hell… I mean how many blatant war crimes does Israel need to commit before countries start condemning them. Goddammit, seriously

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      At this point there is none. They have been doing shit like this for decades. Israel was founded by terrorists and on terrorism.

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        We give them the weapons to do it, then drive aid trucks through their territory in a token effort to help the Gazans, it’s goddamn shameful.

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        I realize that’s what it was at face value but the reality worth keeping in mind is that one side would have likely been more open to continued pressure to shift stances after the election, but felt like they had to say certain things publicly prior to the election because this country spent the past 30+ years ejecting anyone that didn’t fully back Israel.

        People only started caring enough to make this an issue within the past year. I’m not trying to shift blame or apologize for the system, but in what world can that sort of political entrenchment combined with the drawn out multi year election cycle be completely undone within a single election year?

        This was all set in motion in 2016 and whats happening now is just that boulder coming to rest. Entire generations have been born and died (and/or murdered) in this prison.

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          one side would have likely been more open to continued pressure to shift stances after the election

          I don’t believe this at all, if it’s true can you tell me what makes you think that? Because neither the Biden or Harris campaign gave me any indication that they would stop arming and defending this genocide

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            They were the only side concerned with ever having to win an election again. I don’t think the literal insurrectionist side is concerned with public opinion that disagrees with them.

            Plus, Trump is supporting Israel wiping Palestinians off the map (he literally made that video about turning it into a resort), and will probably support Israel if they try to start consuming Lebanon and Syria (which they already have been for a really long time in case you didn’t know). You realize if they cease to exist, there’s a literally 0 chance things get any better.

            I didn’t say it would be a magical fix, I was just saying relatively speaking. Also sometimes shit takes time, I’ve had to wait 14 years to watch Syria finally rid itself of that asswipe bashar. Anything above zero is better than zero. Having to make that choice is why I was born here and not in another country you might be able to take a guess at.

            In fact I watched the entire Arab Spring unfold (on Aljazeera where they actually covered it) and saw the same people now on the side of ending the Palestinian genocide, be against Obama helping intervene in support of the oppressed people of those countries who were getting massacred by western weapons used by their fucked up genocidal leaders, while said people were literally begging us for help. I watched France be the one to take the lead and say they would establish the No Fly Zone if the US didn’t, when the hand wringing was going on for weeks and the rebels taking a heavy price for that delay, only afterwards would the US and other countries step in to finally help. Even then there was a ton of shit from the side “looking out” for arabs today and I took note of the utter lack of humanity in the words I heard being spoke, despite how polite and pleasant they were made to sound.

            After Libya, there was no political will left to help in Syria, and the Syrian situation was just a bit too “messy” to get involved with, so the result was basically “fuck em”

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad people care enough to protest in the street about this shit finally, and I don’t want to shut you down with the arab card or anything, just for real, I grew up with stories about this as a child. It fucking sucks but I can be realistic enough to know entrenched career politicians who’ve had to survive the “cant disagree with Israel” political purge that was basically ongoing until 2023, are going to turn on a dime in the last quarter of an election cycle. I’m down with all the change/improving the fucked up political system (assuming that’s even an option anymore) but that hasn’t happened yet, this was the old system, and it works a certain way or it doesn’t work at all.

            But I’m also not cynical enough to say the two options were in any way equal.

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              You are a privileged and racist piece of shit. They literally said and defended the US funding and arming Israel.

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              So your answer to my question “what made you think there was any chance Harris would stop arming this genocide” is vibes

              You read between the lines and imagined some good intent on her part that wasn’t there, it was just in your mind

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          Fuck you, no they wouldnt have you racist piece of shit. They literally said they will keep funding Israel.

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      It straight up feels like we are living in, like, the world of Final Fantasy 7. They could literally be using the souls of the dead to generate electricity as it literally kills the planet both physically and metaphysically, but only like 7 people are gonna actually be pissed and try to stop it.

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    Not surprised. There’s a video out there with a journalist interviewing older IDF veterans who talk about murdering Palestinian civilians and the sick bastards are smiling.

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    for a country that loves to talk about their right to exist, they sure as fuck try their best to disprove they have that right at all. nazi germany didn’t have a right to exist.

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      Condoning or condemning atrocities has rarely been about the race, nationality, religion, etc. of who was harming or being harmed. Whoever is in power at the time decides what is condoned or condemned.

      20th century Jews were at the mercy of a seemingly-unstoppable German force. Now that Israel are largely in charge of the immediate region, they set the tone, forgetting what had been done to their ancestors.

      Americans weep and gnash teeth over foreign atrocities while standing on the blood of Indigenous people their powerful ancestors were perfectly fine murdering just to gain land.

      African tribes slaughtered each other long before becoming victims of Euro/American slavery.

      I’m not justifying any of it. Just saying it’s the ebb and flow of who is in power at the time that determines who gets to decide what’s condoned or condemned, not the race, etc. of the aggressor or victim. Over centuries and millennia, many/most nations and peoples will take turns giving and receiving atrocities. All you need is an evil leader and just enough supporters to make it seem “ok enough”.

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        Theres an active ongoing genocide happening and you are talking about ebb and flow? What the actual fuck. Fuck off. Use your words and voice to speak out against it not defend it you privileged fucking asshole.

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          It’s sad to see you have such low comprehension skills, if you think I’m defending it. I do hope you get better. EDIT: Holy shit, your comment history. Please seek professional help.

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    I’m not against Jews, I’m against Israel. It appears that the lesson they learned from the Nazis is how to commit atrocities.

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      It’s almost as if the lesson should be that Jews aren’t unique and are just like any other people. And if you put any group of people into an explicit ethnostate, that group of people is going to turn into Nazis.

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        Most countries around the world are based on ethnicity/national identity. Yet they all don’t manage to turn into Nazis. It’s not the state type its the choice made by its people.

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            Israel is only 75% Jewish 🤷

            Obviously they’re trying to be an ethnostate and like to commit genocide. But it’s not like they’re doing that purely bc it’s only one group of people within their borders.

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              Ethnostate refers to them explicitly having written in their constitution that they are a state for ethnic Jews. Any civilized country has a constitution that grants human rights to ebery human and certain civil rights based on citizenship. Israel explicitly is designed as an ethnic supremacy apartheid state.

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                Ahh that makes the comment I was replying to make way more sense. Didn’t fully realize the extent to which Israel is founded on ethnic superiority

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          Well we exist in the present, not the past. There’s not much to be gained today by sanctioning the Italians for the genocide their ancestors committed against the Gauls.

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      You cannot expect atrocities to lead to anything good. We see it in gaza right now, the ongoing genocide will breed more terrorists and more conflicts.

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          Exactly, anyone with two braincells realizes the implications.

          Do you go in blazing, making it clear you’re trying to minimize collateral damage and treat people with respect while getting the job done?

          Or do you go in blazing, setting people’s houses on fire and killing medics?

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        which is part of the plan. without constant conflict the likes of Bibi Hitleryahu could never obtain power.

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      Isn’t it far* older than that? Didn’t Israel commit the main genocide in the Old Testament? Religious people tell me that’s a historical document.

      To me, this same holy war has been raging for millennia and I really wish we’d outgrow it.

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        I don’t think it’s fair to tie history that far back to current people. Maybe it’s context for what’s going on now, idk, but it’s wrong to point to it as some sort of gotcha.

        There’s more than enough damning history just looking back one week.

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          It wasn’t meant as a gotcha, just an observation that they didn’t learn from the Nazis, near the same holy war has been going for a really long time with a few names changing, and it’s tiresome.

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            This is a misunderstanding of how modern Israel got to its current state.

            There were Jews in Palestine before the state of Israel was established.

            The issue isn’t some ancient conflict, it’s that without working with the natives of the region, the British government and UN unilaterally declared that they were making a colonialist ethnostate and took land from the native population for that purpose.

            This isn’t some biblical tale as old as time. The region was (relatively) peaceful.

            It’s very similar the gigantic fuck up of the India Pakistan split based on religion.

            As it turns out, religious ethnostates established by the displacement of natives creates a huge cluster fuck.

            And even with all that, things are as bad as they are today because over the last 3 decades Israel has used every conflict as a tool to militarize and isolate Palestinians.

            Palestinians aren’t blameless, but they’ve been blamed enough for the problems of Israel. Much like the IRA’s bombings were uncalled for, that doesn’t mean Britain wasn’t to blame for a lot of the problems of Ireland.

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              Not that Britain was blameless here, but they didn’t really have a choice. The Zionist terrorists were going to take country by force, so Britain/UN just capitulated, legitimising and putting in power that group.

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        none of his conflict is about Judaism or Islam. it’s about colonialism. jews who were expelled during the inquisition found a safe haven in lands of muslims. they lived side by side for decades.

        the unfortunately intense antisemitism you may find among Muslim populations is because of what happened to Palestine in the name of zionism.

        the way Israel insists that they represent jews and Judaism breeds antisemitism. which is what they want by the way. jews experiencing antisemitism around the world gives them more potential colonizing power.

        they also want you to think this is about religion because it becomes easy to dismiss and both-sides the issue and distract from the fact that it is about ethnic cleansing and genocide.

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          Zionism isn’t a religious colonizing movement? Is Israel not a Jewish ethnostate? To say that this isn’t related to Judaism in some way is disingenuous.

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            if anything it’s a christian colonialist project. the superstars of colonialism, the brits are mainly to thank here. but all of that is besides my point.

            again, jews and arabs lived side by side before Israel was a state. jews were Jewish and arabs were mostly Muslim back then as well. if it really were about religious differences they wouldn’t be living in peace before. it’s not the religion, it’s politics. and war crimes.

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              Why set up a Jewish state if it wasn’t the goal? Look I get it, anti-Semitism is shit. Jews are targeted for something that they aren’t responsible for. But all of these politics and war crimes are, unfortunately, covered in Jewish flavor. That’s a problem for all Jews, I think. To combat this by saying religion has no part in this isn’t working.

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                they set up a Jewish state because european countries didn’t want to accept Jewish migrants. they used the holy land as an excuse to tell Jewish people to fuck off to Palestine where they can replace some brown people rather than bother white christians.

                again, if the problem was really the religion it would be there before the establishment of the Israeli state. I’m telling you that the religions of both peoples were constant while the political move was the variable that changed. that’s how you find causes, however much you’d like to chalk this up to religion bad.

                I hear the same shit from people who blame Iran’s situation on their religion when again it was clearly the very blatant meddling of colonial forces. they had the same religion before and after the revolution. the thing that changed was the US replacing a democratically elected head of state with a stooge. people love to cover for the atrocities of western powers by pretending it’s all about religious disputes.

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                  Why does Israel decry it’s criticism of the genocide as anti-semitism if it has nothing to do with it’s religion? Israelis do use Judaism as a justification for their actions, is that not in doubt? Whatever happened in the past has no bearing on the immense suffering caused by a flag that symbolizes Judaism right now.

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    They opened fire on French forces too in Lebanon.

    It’s getting fucking spicy and real weird that European Jewish refugees are building their own Auschwitz next door.

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    God damn. If there’s a god, just wait.

    Safely presuming there isn’t, these assholes gotta get found and destroyed just like people have done with former nazi commanders and stuff.

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      Have you ever given consideration to the fact that there may be a God… but they are malevolent, not benevolent?

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        People are foolish to think god cares. God caring is the equivalent of a child in a sand box playing with his army soldiers. Actually the child likely cares about his army men more than a god would.

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    I’ll never get enough of saying it: this is happening with the help and support of your government

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      How do you know what country we’re in?

      Are all nations helping Israel? That seems unlikely.