• skytrim@reddthat.com
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    6 hours ago

    I play Skyrim. In that rpg video game you can be an assassin. After you kill Grelod the Kind, a child abuser, one of the children she tortured says:

    “Kill one person, and you can solve so many problems. I wonder at the possibilities.” - Runa Fair-Shield.

    When does assassination become an acceptable political strategy? I can see how bumping off many crazy men (and right now I can only name male dictators but I guess women could be just as bad) would make the world safer - well, safer if we assume it would not trigger a backlash and WW3.

    Maybe we could assassinate Kim and North Korea would rejoice not set off nukes? Maybe we could assassinate MbS and the Saudis would just shrug and appoint a new Crown Prince with a less murderous tendancy towards journalists and dissidents? But could we assassinate Putin, Trump, Xi, or Modi and not release hell?

    If I had a red button to press and it would remove Putin, Trump, Musk, Thiel, Hamas, Netanyahu, or other bad guys, should I press the button? What do you think?

    Note: this is a thought experiment - outside Skyrim, I never killed anyone, never worked as an assassin for hire, and have no desire to change that fact. I just want to read your thoughts on this topic - I think we’ve all wondered if there is a shortcut back to normality in face of current events but are we fooling ourselves?

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      1 hour ago

      Good people don’t become assassins, something bad people don’t have problems with.

      It’s never Hitler, Putin, Stalin or Trump who get assassinated. Always JFK, Martin Luther King, Bobby, …

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      Biggest problem is that all of these people that you and me consider assholes do have a huge support. It’s not like a dictator can be a dictator without any support.

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        You can absolutely make a massive difference with just one person. People really underestimate how much importance one leader is…

        You do have to worry about the election after any assassination though lol.

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          I’m reminded the example of the people’s will and the assassination of Alexander II. One person doesn’t change a system. On the other hand taking out all the billionaire donors that craft a system, well that might be something else. They could just buy a new leader.

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          You do have to worry about the election after any assassination though

          Assassination would just make Trump into a MAGA martyr. They would be riled up and energized.

          You would end up with MTG as Vance’s VP or something equally horrid.

          I’d rather he die from a heart attack or a lightning strike on the golf course.

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      What the fuck is this comment bro? Killing people is wrong. Trying to use videogame logic as your excuse is disgusting.

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    The president accused Bolton of publishing sensitive information and said the book’s publication “created a grave risk that classified material was publicly exposed.”

    This classified material?

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      Remember the old days, when the bathroom reading material was a stack of Reader’s Digest on the back of the toilet?

      I hope he’s in there one day tweeting his atrophied brains out on the toilet, and that chandelier drops on his head, and ends him. The only more fitting end would be him choking out during auto-erotic asphyxiation.

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      Is… is this the real picture? Of the classified material that was shared by trump? Holy fuck lmfao. I thought it was like one letter or something, secretly hidden under the rug; this looks hilarious I’m sorry.

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        That’s not even the worst of it. Several rooms full of documents were found at his property and, though everyone seems to focus on the toilet one, IMO the worst is the one of a storage room full of classified documents plus a scanner/printer.

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          I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.

          And this guy is actually the president. Fuck America. How could this happen.

          I fucking had less boxes when I moved into my new apartment lmfao.

          The printer is a nice little touch. Love the black accent between all these white boxes.

          I mean this honestly: You would tell me if this was fake, right? This is actually real?

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              The question isn’t quite as funny as you think. I am German and didn’t actually expect the USA and their „president“ to be an actual meme.

              Like… this stuff is an actual joke. But it’s your own fault in America.

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            I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.

            It’s real. The US is on an extreme downward spiral and MAGA plays violin whilst the country burns.

            The weird thing is I think we all knew the USA was doomed but I personally didn’t expect to see the downfall in my lifetime and not on a speedrun like it is now. Crazy times

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            Remember, they played an audio recording of him claiming to show classified documents that weren’t declassified to his workers who don’t have clearences.
            https://youtu.be/inVJF0Dr8mo

            He outright admits that the documents aren’t declassified, while knowing he was being recorded, and reads them to people not classified for the documents he’s showing them supposedly. (About 1:20 if want to skip is where he starts admitting to a criminal offense)

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            The best part is that this was known long before he was elected the second time.

            Any one who goes “I was lied to!” is straight-up just an idiot who regrets that they had to feel a consequence. At best they’re just mind-bogglingly ignorant of how the world functions which is no excuse.

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              I agree with you. Everyone who voted for this, or even worse, didn’t vote at all, deserves to get their healthcare, job security and retirement destroyed. And I will laugh at them when they start crying. What a bunch of worthless idiots.

              Is this mean? If so I’m not sorry.

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        Yes that’s one of the actual pictures from the indictment they brought against him. He apparently had like 300 different documents of varying levels of classified status. There’s a couple more iirc of different places like a bedroom and a ballroom stage too. Basically it seems like he had his goons just hide anything he could get his hands on in random boxes of what were supposed to be just irrelevant personal effects

        He was only indicted specifically for like 30 of them but my understanding is they specifically chose ones they were willing to have potentially entirely exposed.

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          I‘m having a hard time grasping the whole thing. It’s actually insane that THIS happened. I feel like I am having a fever dream lol.

          Talk about boldness. This is just ridiculous haha. Man should be in El Salvador right now. Not the White House.

          Also, that bathroom looks fucking ugly. How can you have infinite money and then use it to make a room like this…

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            Money doesn’t buy taste, as you learn pretty quick after seeing enough rich people houses.

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              True. Money buys expensive shit, no matter how ugly.

              Maybe unpopular opinion, but just look at Porsche. These cars are ugly as hell. Yet they cost a fortune.

              Not saying all expensive stuff is ugly. But it’s one example. Give me a Maserati any day tho.

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                Buddy, like what you like but most Maseratis I see are pretty boring and some can even feel tacky. And why are so many of them matte black, the tackiest finish? Maseratis definitely sound incredible, though.

                Porsches like the 911 are also designed to be sports cars before anything else and even then I still like ‘em. Some came out a little strange for sure but for the most part they’re great.

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              Not really. A large portion didn’t even vote at all, which is even worse in my book.

              „Here is Kamala Harris. She’s not perfect, but she values democracy and loves her country.

              Here is Donald Trump. He is senile, deranged, corrupted and shares classified information with the USA‘s mortal enemy. Also he hates the poors and gays and wants to take their rights away.“

              „Idk. They are kinda the same. I opted not to vote.“ 🥴🫠

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                I absolutely believe that the Both Sides Are The Same idea is really, really stupid. How dumb do you have to be to believe that HitlerPig was going to be better at anything than Harris, or any other Democrat for that matter. Or even any other human. He is literally the most prolific traitor in American history, a definitive pyschopath, and hopelessly ignorant in the most basic things.

                The problem was that when it came to the Gaza issue, they both WERE kind of the same. Whichever one you voted for might pay some lip service to the genocide, but they were both going to continue to send weapons, bombs, and money to Israel to continue it. Under HitlerPig, it won’t end until the Gaza Strip is cleared out, and Kushner is building luxury resorts, hotels, and condos.

                Under Harris, there would be a lot more scolding, but it wouldn’t have slowed the flow of weapons one bit. In the end, Gaza would still be emptied, and Kushner would still be creating the Jewish Dubai.

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                  Exactly. These non voters are complicit. But I’m just saying… how idiotic can a person be? Like seriously.

                  How can you not vote when you have options like Kamala vs Trump?

                  Fucking brainless idiots. And now they probably cry about their non existent healthcare to get taken away completely. And losing their jobs. And somehow it’s the Lib‘s fault.

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        Then we would have eyeliner wearing Venereal Disease Vance and he’s just as worse!! It’s an “evil vs evil” situation and the only people who lose are the American people who tried to change the narrative! I legit feel like I am walking in real time through some “Idiocracy” film set watching for Luke Wilson to pop out and say JK, but NOPE… here we are! :/

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          Trump is only successful because he holds a coalition of wacko together with his personality cult. Vance does not have that cult following. He would not be able to hold the coalition together. One of Trumps kids might be able to, but they’ve all been pushed aside by Musk. Musk can’t take the reigns because he is an immigrant. If Trump goes. the whole thing quickly falls apart.

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            Also even if Musk is able to find another puppet it’ll be notable smaller than Trump’s. Musk cultists generally align with STEM weirdos no offense to folks in STEM but I’m sure you folks are familiar with the types I’m talking about.

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              You mean the business majors who think they’re an engineer because they spent a year majoring in engineering? Jk yeah I know these morons, they’re all throughout stem and if they see any value in the humanities it’s them being really into philosophy but like in the same way some salespeople are really into tech, ie lacking comprehension or context.

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              I also think it was fake. I fucking hate the guy but he’s so full of bullshit that I literally don’t believe ANYTHING he claims.

              He could say he breathes air and I would have my doubts.

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                  Yeah. He probably did. Can you disprove my disbelief?

                  This fucking useless scumbag just wanted attention. That’s my opinion. Appreciate any counter-evidence.

                  Cause if it’s just u and me, without any actual evidence, anything could be true.