Canada is in advanced talks with the European Union to join the bloc’s new project to expand its military industry, a move that would allow Canada to be part of building European fighter jets and other military equipment at its own industrial facilities.
The budding defense cooperation between Canada and the European Union, which is racing to shore up its industry to lower reliance on the United States, would boost Canada’s military manufacturers and offer the country a new market at a time when its relationship with the United States has become frayed.
Shaken by a crisis in the two nations’ longstanding alliance since President Trump’s election, Canada has started moving closer to Europe. The military industry collaboration with the European Union highlights how traditional U.S. allies are deepening their ties without U.S. participation to insulate themselves from Mr. Trump’s unpredictable moves.
Hell yah Canada someone gotta show the US that they can’t just bully the rest of the world
We are just fully in the buildup now, aren’t we. What a horrifying time to be alive. I wonder what a global scale conflict would be like with social media.
This is huge. If this grains traction it would be a substantial boost to our economy and our defense capabilities.
Wheeee gripens
We should have started this back under the Trump version 1 term. But better late than never.
I think we should start to fortify our borders next. We’re living above an unstable country. I’m tired of their guns crossing the border and killing Canadians. We need to lock this shit down now.
Can we knock the last three words off that title?
You son of a bitch, I’m in.
Two officials, one from the European Union and one from Canada, with direct knowledge of the discussions said detailed talks were underway to incorporate Canada into the European Union’s new defense initiative. The goal is to boost the E.U.’s defense industry and eventually offer a credible alternative to the United States, which is now dominant.
Specifically, the officials said, Canada would be able to become part of the European military manufacturing roster, marketing its industrial facilities to build European systems like the Saab Gripen jet, a competitor to the American F-35, which is made by Lockheed Martin.
A good news day!
Glad to see Carney fast-tracking the important stuff. I knew we could count on him.
Yeah, I’m used to Liberal PM’s being overly cautious and hide bound. These are surprisingly strong moves for Carney to be making in his first few days in office and I’m all for it. He’s clearly understood the gravity of the current situation.
He called his nominations a “wartime cabinet” and based on his actions, he wasn’t using that term metaphorically.
I have no expertise in military technology and cannot speak to the superiority of F-35s, the magnitude of their tactical advantage, nor the factors that justify or mitigate their operating cost. But the auxiliary benefits of buying into Saab’s ecosystem are accumulating into quite the stack. Given that our military strength is somewhat predicated on economic strength, I like seeing us take a path that grows both. The latter pays dividends even if we fight no real wars nor avert any theoretical ones.
And ultimately, Lockheed Martin’s technological advantage is built on capital investment and mindshare. With sufficient resources consolidating elsewhere, that can be eventually rivaled. Even before that point, we’re looking at facing rivals with lesser tech than the Gripen, or rivals that control the F-35 program and its supply lines. The upsides are just too context-sensitive.
The EU is undergoing militization. To join, I think Canada will have to do the same. Conscription is a conversation Europe is having now, which is something Canada has never had to think about.
From March 9,
https://inews.co.uk/news/world/european-countries-military-conscription-3574509
Canada has had conscription. Just not since WW2.
To join
There’s no realistic outlook for Canada joining the EU. But everything else stands, Canada doesn’t need to join the EU to increase its relationships and agreements.
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This is ironically written by an American newspaper.
What is ironic about that? It affects them too. They are among the best-funded sources of journalism and have been pretty consistent in standing up to report on the consequences of the actions that Americans have taken.
ohh NYT did a journalism for once.
I am amazed they found the manpower for this piece between having to deny genocide and/or running apologia for it.
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If he is trying to align with Russia, then yes likely.
