• InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’m not saying that people shouldn’t vote I’m saying that people shouldn’t waste time convincing others to vote or who to vote for.

    I just don’t care about people trying to organize and won’t waste my time helping others beyond my most intimidate eye sight

    Fuck bro can you imagine if we had a SC that could rule that the overturning of RoeVWade is not allowed? Or that the shipments of more ammo to Israel needs to be stopped. Privileged people like you are not in the front line, but you are abandoning those who are.

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      I just don’t care about people trying to organize and won’t waste my time helping others beyond my most intimidate eye sight

      Yep. You caught me. Local organization helps with none of these things and you’re right I should waste more of my time trying to convince people to vote in a system that won’t represent them or fix anything.

      Really you should take this attitude to a Native American reservation watch how it plays out. I’m sure they won’t have a ton of reasons why they refuse to vote in the US elections. And I’m sure they won’t take any offense to you claiming that they’re in a privileged position to not vote.

      we had a SC that could rule that the overturning of RoeVWade is not allowed

      Yes Supreme Court that acts like that would be nice. Too bad that’s literally never existed in the United States for its entire history.

      You know what else would be nice if Bernie got elected in 2016 but over in reality we have to deal with what’s here. Not idealism land where if you logic hard enough you can get all the apathetic voters to vote and every voter who’s going to vote third party to vote for the party of your choice.

      Your mistake is thinking that people are rational creatures that will always make a decision based on that rationality when in fact we are irrational creatures that contain a multitude of contradictory opinions.

      Reality is recognizing that there is no magic wand to make apathetic voters come to the table and your pleas about minority safety will fall on deaf ears. Americans are an incredibly selfish bunch.

      Call me privileged all you want you have no idea about my life who I am what I’m protecting or what I need to do to survive. It’s almost like one should say that you need to check your privilege

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        Really you should take this attitude to a Native American reservation watch how it plays out.

        Well there aren’t any near me so no can do chief… unless i vote for someone that will expand aid to them…

        who I am what I’m protecting or what I need to do to survive.

        Would you vote to help keep their rights?

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          Your Privilege is showing again. Native Americans aren’t exactly Keen on getting us Aid. Something about the numerous strings attached.

          I would vote pragmatically for the candidate who promises to do the most with the best track record. Which probably won’t be the Democrat or the Republican.

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            I would vote pragmatically for the candidate who promises to do the most with the best track record.

            So the thing I’ve been asking you and other tankies to do, but you keep saying you won’t and would buy a jacket to rub in my face instead?

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              Noted I will not make sarcastic comments like that anymore. You do have a point that you never attacked my character for the most part. So I probably should not have made the comment about getting a jacket specifically to rile you up.

              Regardless I wouldn’t go buy the jacket I would make it. Much more ethical that way.

              Other tankies will do what you want them to do but they will not spend their time doing the other thing you want them to do which is try to engage people to get them to vote. They will see it like I do as a waste of time.

              You can try this thing on Anarchist and they would respond the same. They would see it as a waste of time.

              You were not going to beat the government by playing in the government’s own Turf and following their rules

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                You were not going to beat the government by playing in the government’s own Turf and following their rules

                Like I said its not the only front, just one of many.