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    432 days ago

    You know, I think the best way for the Internet as a whole to stop using people as product, is to have a worldwide publically subsidised Internet, like the BBC or PBS but it is the Internet. The governments pitches in just like with any global programmes.

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        Are you saying to use that money to pay every single company not to use my data without my permission?

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      262 days ago

      People buy magnets and tape them to their body because they think it cures cancer.

      Why would these people use free Internet when premium luxury deluxe Internet is available for only .99¢ a month.

      And then why wouldn’t PLDI, Inc founder not use his influence to get elected president and kill that bad public Internet.

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          What was the deal with those pads you put on your feet and they turn black? Seemed like voodoo.

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        12 days ago

        Why would these people use free Internet when premium luxury deluxe Internet is available for only .99¢ a month.

        Same reason as why public broadcasting still exist and is quite popular.

        It is about having choice to be a product of the Internet titans or not.

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      82 days ago

      That would be awesome but I don’t see it working in practice. The BBC at least is losing it’s independence, I don’t know about PBS. Imagine Trump now controlling the internet directly for 4 years.

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          Which is like 3% of the internet, tops. Large swaths are thankfully still free. gestures at lemmy exhibit A

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            I think you’re wildly underestimating the influence of those sites. And even beyond those sites, think about how many sites can only exist because of payments from ads served by those same operators. It’s true they don’t control the whole Internet, but they sure have a ton of power.

            I also don’t think the level of control Trump will have over PBS is worse than the influence he’ll exert over mainstream media sites through the threat of legal harassment alongside his indirect control of the discourse on Twitter.

            I guess mostly I remember the Internet in the days before it got so corporate, when it was wild and wooly, and all the sites were bizarre little labors of love created purely because someone just really wanted to post information about their Special Interest. (E.g., I had an old Tripod site that was just a detailed explanation of the shape of a module for a five intersecting tetrahedra origami model, complete with folding diagrams and descriptions of the approximations I’d used to simplify it and how the lengths related to each other. Then my hard drive crashed and I went to grab those files back from my site and discovered they’d deleted the whole thing because I hadn’t updated the site, which had never occurred to me because, well, it was just this info, it didn’t need updating. Those were the early days of corporatization.)

            So when I picture a public-subsidized Internet, that’s pretty much what I think of. People being people, sharing information out of weird enthusiasm. I think it would work in practice because we’ve had that kind of thing before. Lemmy is honestly kind of a similar thing right now; it’s just that some kind, generous souls are paying for the servers, which is likely going to be hard to sustain eventually.

            I dunno. It’s dark times for sure.

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              21 day ago

              I agree it’s dark times, but it would have been much darker if he had direct control. “Anything left of fox news is canceled and fox news itself is on thin ice” levels of bad.

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      The best way is for people to stop trying to make as much money as possible with as little effort as possible.

      It’s not about keeping the lights on, putting kids through school, or putting bread on the table. It’s about living as luxurious a life as possible with as little effort as possible. That’s it.

      If these people were forced to do more with less, they would because they have no other choice. They have other choices, so that’s what they take.

      I’m sorry, but people like you are actually helping them by peddling the narrative that they need this money. They don’t. Plenty of people work harder than them for less because they have no choice.

      We need to stop giving businesses decisions on how to f**k us and just band together with higher standards so they make less profit.

      Everyone who gives them money should be seen as a class traitor, because that’s what they are.