As much as I want to hate the researchers for this, how are you going to ethically test whether you can manipulate people without… manipulating people. And isn’t there an argument to be made for harm reduction? I mean, this stuff is already going on. Do we just ignore it or only test it in sanitized environments that won’t really apply to the real world?

I dunno, mostly just shooting the shit, but I think there is an argument to be made that this kind of research and it’s results are more valuable than the potential harm. Tho the way this particular research team went about it, including changing the study fundamentally without further approval, does pose problems.

As was pointed out in the actual reddit discussions, ChangeMyView has a strict “do not accuse the other person of being a bot or troll” rule. So the whole “no one knew it was a bot” part has very little merit.

I’ll just say it’s very clear you’ve never seen what a botched circumcision does to a penis. You also don’t seem to know the biology of the male genitals very well either if you think it’s “just skin”.

Why don’t we instead focus on “bodily autonomy”? No one should have unnecessary medical procedures done against their will and without their consent. It’s a pretty simple rule that applies to everyone and covers most of these issues simply.

I don’t believe that ‘being able to be elected by voters one more time’ is even close to being the same as a ‘fascist dictatorship’.

Where was the question? I only see misinformed assumptions and straight falsehoods.

I refer you to my original request about stfu-ing

Fair point. I was focusing more on the “with or without the people’s blessing” aspect.

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It’s really nice when the false progressives out themselves so openly.

If only it covered vice president succession as well… Oh wait…

Simple. If done by a single person or small group that is not representative of the whole, it’s facism. If done with the blessing of the people, it’s not.

If trump passed an amendment changing that, and did so by acquiring the proper amount of votes in all areas, that would be fine.

If he does it by saying “I can because I say so”, that’s facism.

I know you’re just being a troll or intentionally ignorant, but that’s the answer. You’re intentionally stripping ALL THE NUANCE out and trying to act naive.

For me it’s having a kind of Streisand Effect… Is there a mass torrent of just Sony songs I can grab? Cus fuck em, I want it just out of spite

I’m not gonna disagree with the people saying “I’ve dropped my phone a million times and it’s fine”. I was there once too. Then, I dunno what my luck became, but suddenly dropping my phone almost always ended up cracking the screen. So I started using protectors.

Now, on those times I drop it just right to shatter the screen, instead just the protector cracks. Peel it off, stick on a new one for cheap(or free if you buy ones with a warranty), and continue on.

I treat them like crumple zones. The force being applied to the phone has to go somewhere. The protector, being outside, takes it first. Does it guarantee the phone will survive? Nah. But does it add something else that has to break first? Yup. And have I managed to crack a phones screen since using protectors? Nope.

It may just be anecdotal experience, but an extra $10-$50 to protect a $800-$1000 phone seems like simple insurance imo. Same with an Otterbox case(which also have lifetime warrenties).

Yeah, this was cool until all the steps show it’s not “his brain”. It’s a genetic facsimile.

Exactly this. People who hate facism telling you you have no choice in your vote. Umm… that’s… kinda fascist…

Dude was quoting a Rush song buddy… As much as I hate memes in a serious convo, that’s what that was.

Again, how exactly did my vote in California, that in the end voted for Kamala, help trump AT ALL.

It didn’t and you’re just full of shit. Literally all that would happen, if let’s say I voted 10000 times illegally, is that Kamala would have still lost. I could have convinced all of California to vote blue and… checks notes Kamala still would have lost, but the popular vote would have been even more depressing.

You just want to be mad at someone instead of any sort of self reflection. You’re a leftist MAGA.

How. Explain how. How did my vote in California, that voted for Kamala, affect others negatively? Please, I’d love to hear your bullshit excuse. Literally all you are doing is another “us vs them” fight that divides us. So please, let’s hear some logic and facts about those my vote personally lost us the election. I’ll wait.

You do realized I could’ve falsely voted HUNDREDS OF TIMES for Kamala and we’d still have lost, right? Like, you know how electoral votes vs popular vote works, right? Cus I really don’t think you do.

Hey, I’d like to introduce you to shades of gray. I live in California. I in fact, can protest vote. Because guess what? We still majorily vote blue no matter fucking what. So what now? How am I complicit when my state voted for Kamala?

This is such a tired bullshit argument. You just want someone to be angry at. You’re no different than a MAGA with your lack of logic.

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When will you people learn “fuck you, accept this candidate or else” doesn’t work? You can’t blackmail and extort your constituents.

This. If you don’t have kids there are basically no support systems to start a family. Wages aren’t high enough and it looks like a daunting task. But if you have kids, suddenly you can qualify for food stamps and assistance(which is good). The system is basically set up to help prevent you from failing once you’ve already done it, but not to set you up to do it successfully beforehand. To have kids, you basically have to say “fuck it, we’ll just figure it out”. A lot of people aren’t willing to take that risk.