I’ve been voting in elections for decades for the Dems and the Dems have only gotten worse every time I voted for them, they kept ratcheting right. I took a stance this election for president because I realized it wouldn’t have mattered both parties are captured by the oligarchy. If you’ve been voting for them for decades and haven’t had the epiphany that they aren’t working for you, maybe you need to go back to grade school.

Voting is not the only action that created the current environment get over yourself.

You are not better or more informed because you voted for one oligarch party over the other.

I have a line I won’t cross that’s genocide, where’s yours? Nowhere to be found because Dem loyalists are feckless spineless cowards who do nothing but defend every action Dem politicians make.

I’m glad boot lickers like you hate people that have principles like me because you have none, and I don’t want people like that for allies.

Edit: Also your party fucked up and lost and you’re trying to get others to admit they fucked up but you won’t? Got it.

Honestly, and other people on Lemmy acting like this election is the ONLY thing that caused this moment are real ignorant, this has been building for decades. If the Party Loyalists had pushed their party to be GOOD instead of just being “not the other guy” we wouldn’t be in this moment.

I think if we had co-ops running some of these systems it would definitely alleviate some issues

Honestly Mastodon is the closest thing atm unless you can get more people to join Friendica

Democrats have moved to the right, and hurt themselves doing so. That is true. But they are still objectively superior to Republicans in every conceivable way. People who voted Republican voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces party because they were angry about Democrats being imperfect, and their faces will be eaten.

The problem you (people blaming voters) don’t seem to understand is, the Democrats moving right DIRECTLY demotivated voters and they stayed home because they were going to get right wing policy either way. They literally had no choice in multiple different avenues of how the country would be run so they said “fuck it if I got no choice for x y AND z, why vote?” maybe they still had a choice for a-w but maybe those specific policies didn’t matter to them personally and wouldn’t have affected their life.

This is A) the problem with having a shitty party platform and B) the problem with hyper-individualism that our country loves.