Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]

People shunning or putting down training AI with pirated images while engaging in and promoting piracy themselves are hypocritical idiots because they’re engaging in the very thing they are shunning. You can’t shun copyright infringement and take part in it at the same time, that’s idiotic and destroys your credibility.

Piracy was never stealing, anyone who said it was is either an idiot or a troll (those anti-piracy astroturfers would fall into the second category).

Considering who lobbies for and enforces copyright these days (rich assholes) and the amount put into anti-piracy and anti-sharing campaigns I don’t think it’s helping much in those areas. Companies these days often violate GPL with little to no consequence (name one time a company got in trouble and there’s probably 100 that didn’t).

You can go fuck yourself dude, trans women are women. For all social and identity purposes they are female.

He absolutely doesn’t want to get rid of them, just make large corporations immune from claims or maybe even able to take copyrights away from others. Abolishment of copyright goes against these people’s core beliefs of control, they don’t want copyright gone, they wish to control it.

No you aren’t, the tactic that @orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts And many others are using here is called Tu quoque and it is a logical fallacy.

Lol you are so out of touch with reality, trans people are real and have existed for as long as humanity has. We have records of people in ancient societies who are believed to be what we consider nowadays to be transgender (i.e. being AMAB but being buried in a women’s burial position and burial site) and ironically many of them were respected and honored in those cultures (which is why we even know in the first place).

Also Two-Spirit is a Native American identity, it was added because there are indigenous people who identify that way and deserve to be seen. The fact that you are putting it and them down shows how little you actually care.

I’m open minded

You are not what anyone would consider open-minded, you just spent two paragraphs putting down transgender people and denying the existence and identities of native American people who are two-spirit. You can consider yourself open-minded but that doesn’t make it so.

but not SO open minded that my brain is falling out.

ha haha HAHAHAHA.That’s so ironic because this transphobic rant you posted indicates that this has already happened long ago. That’s what happens when you fill your head with whatever it was that led you to write two and a half paragraphs of this transphobic garbage.

People who don’t want copyright to exist have never created art people want to buy.

I think you’ll find a lot of artists who’ve been screwed over by record labels (who commandeer your copyright), as well as indie artists who release under CreativeCommons or Public Domain who would strongly disagree with you there.

Piracy is not stealing and never will be, seriously you sound exactly like those dumb anti-piracy people. If you somehow believe piracy is okay but training data isn’t that’s hypocritical and stupid.

I don’t know why you think you’re going to get any kind of support for pro-capitalist pro-copyright bullshit here.

Aww it’s so cute that your only attempt at a rebuttable is to assume I can’t draw, because you know that I’m right, you’re sitting here whining and preaching capitalist pro-copyright bullshit in an anarchist community. You’re the one making yourself look bad, making yourself look like a troll, coming into an anti-copyright community whining about people not respecting artists copyright, it’s really sad and pathetic. Grow the fuck up.

Edit: Wow you have one of the worst modlog histories I’ve seen yet. That really doesn’t help your case, and only reinforces the idea that you’re a troll.

Hey look, it’s one of those pro-copyright trolls I was describing in my original comment about how the anti-AI trolls here are hypocrites for coming to an anarchist, leftist community that doesn’t support or prop up the false notion of copyright and intellectual property gatekeeping coming here to argue that a thing is bad because of copyright infringement.

You can’t expect people here to not think you are a troll coming to a community in dbzer0, AKA the piracy instance, and trying to argue pro-copyright talking points, that’s what you’re doing here when you come and whine about art theft. Copyright is a capitalist construct, you sitting here arguing for it, or putting down violations of it is laughable petty trolling at best, and at worst it’s Anarcho-Capitalist, or just straight up pro-capitalist trolling.

Whichever app you’re using you should probably file an issue request for that, that isn’t supposed to happen.

Oh for sure, they’re absolutely not lost, more like a troll.

Are you like… lost? You’re literally in a leftist anarchist community and you’re surprised that people here, in this leftist anarchist community are against capitalism?

That person is 100% a troll, the amount of shit he’s said in this thread proves it. I’m willing to bet he’ll come right back after his ban lifts and start saying the exact same things.

So it seems like from what you’re saying that you aren’t one of the people me or db0 are talking about. Me and db0 are specifically talking about the hypocritical people who come here and complain that we use Horde generative AI and use all the talking points against OpenAI and Google, against Horde and even db0.

It doesn’t render it in a frame to be played? That is weird, and definitely not in-spec with Markdown standard.

Tell that to OpenAI. They’re not the only ones who have come out against IP law in the wake of the kerfuffle about how it relates to AI.

This is one of those cases where two groups seem like they are united on a subject but aren’t really. OpenAI claims they want to abolish copyright for the good of themselves and AI, but that isn’t really true. They just want immunity from it, complete death of copyright doesn’t benefit them or any of the companies, since they’d lose their moral high horse against civilians using their material without paying them, as well as their ability to legally retaliate.

Really their claimed stance against copyright doesn’t undermine any of the anarchist and pirate arguments against IP law as it is today and as a concept, it doesn’t even align with it. It’s no different than right wingers saying there’s a war on science or that they want to protect women and children from groomers. It’s just obfuscating or lying about their intentions. OpenAI is just claiming their against copyright because it’s easier to swallow than saying they wish to be immune from copyright, maybe even be able to usurp individual people’s copyrights outright.

Like this:

So basically all things that, pretty much exclusively do not apply to the open source, self-hosted, and decentralized AI promoted and used by this community of anarchists and tech enthusiasts? And you wonder why people here think you are trolls? Like, everything you described here is a problem with capitalism and the capitalistic system, you realize that your arguments are just proving what @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is saying?