And I thought Americans were carbrained, holy shit.
(To be fair, he’s not wrong in that this is intended to keep the auto companies and the government nice and fat – but the obvious response to this is to agitate for better public transit, not railing against an environmentally sound policy.)
Sadly 1km is not the dumbest distant i have seen
Back when I walked my kids to school a parent who shared a fence with the school would drive them around a piece of grass the the front of the school and drop them of. The path through the grass was along side their side garden wall and shorter than the road they drove.
Of course it was a huge 4x4 to boot
People will go very far to show others their status
I used to live next to some folk who would drive 300 metres to the gym
Yeah, that one always gets me: and then they run 5 miles on a treadmill.
I always thought the equipment should all be hooked up to some sort of generator somehow so that the place could turn all that energy being spent exercising into electricity for the lights etc. There could also be pancakes 🥞
Human exercise produces so little electricity that it would probably be a net negative to produce everything required for this gimmick.
You need an exercise bike to produce something like a few hundred watts at most, if you can keep up an intense session. Continous stable power generation will be lower.
And everything which isn’t a bike will have much lower peak power generation capacity, and will be less efficient too
I bet a place like that already exists somewhere!
I read an article forever ago about a place in Tibet that wasn’t on the grid and had pedal chargers for some laptops at a computer cafe
I once helped ride a stationary bicycle for 2 hours to charge batteries enough to watch a movie. So it does exist.
I used to walk 500m round trip to nearby restaurant for lunch, everyone i met will comment on how far that is. Of course, i take it to heart and now drive my 4x4 there.
Nah just kidding, i now ride a bike, often 3.5km round trip for lunch.
I’d be mad if the government forced me to get rid of my working car too. I think a better option would be to do something like not allow new gas cars to be manufactured or registered to people. Like stop issuing license plates for gas cars rather than forcing everyone to get rid of them.
Sounds like how the EU is usually doing this. Limit the companies, not the people directly.
Bro your title is misleading.
Indian man upset that the government is forcing him to buy a new car
Your title makes the man sound like he’s complaining about his wife
That’s a fair point actually. I’ll change it
It may not be carbrain so much as shitty car-centric infrastructure.
ITT: Some people want OOP’s wife and kid to walk to school on what’s essentially a highway. Others seem to realize that there might be a reason why OOP’s wife needs the car, and given that OOP’s done 65000 km in 15 years, he’s not exactly doing a whole lot of driving with it.
There’s also suggestions of using public transport, but if that even exists for their route, OOP’s wife can’t exactly just go walk on a bus, she could get gang raped, because this is Delhi.
We’re not talking about a big SUV either. It’s a tiny little hatchback, the most city-friendly car possible:
The situation sucks for everyone involved. Whereas in the west we’re used to it being just a transit availability issue, in parts of the world there’s also the safety issue. Yes, the famous gang-rape-set-on-fire-murder case was 13 years ago, but that doesn’t mean Delhi is magically safe now. It’s still a huge issue.
The has got to be an alternate route that is nicer than that, that’s wild.
But I get that sone areas are incredibly car centric and leave you little choice.
Isn’t it true that once a car is built, it’s basically better for the environment to drive it until its wheels fall off instead of scrapping it to buy any new one (even electric) though ? He’s right that a lot of the time these schemes are thinly veiled auto industry handouts to stimulate the economy, instead of actual environmental regulations.
Every 35000 km or 21000 miles a gasoline car going on average 20km/l or 47mpg have produced the same amount of CO2 that it takes to make an electric car.
So if over the lifetime of the car you go less than 35000km you shouldn’t be changing it with an electric. Otherwise please do 😁
How long is that offset including charging? I know that EVs are still significant better, but it’s not like the moment an EV rolls out that it’s carbon emissions stop.
The thing with EVs is that they get cleaner over time as cheap solar and batteries become a bigger part of the grid and old coal plants age out.
If you buy a diesel today, it’ll still be burning diesel in 2045.
better for the environment
Yes.
Better for your nerves? No.
Also you have to keep your vehicle in a state where it can drive safely, which leads to maintenance costs that rise over time. But safe for your environment as in the people around you, whether you reach your destination alive is of less importance.
for one this severely depends on when it was built, old cars basically just convert 90% of the fuel into air pollution and spew it straight out the exhaust pipe, while modern cars actually use the fuel to go forward and provided the catalytic converter is in good shape they filter out some of the nastiness.
The environmental break even period for EVs is getting shorter and shorter as the power grids get cleaner and cleaner.
It was a somewhat solid argument against buying new EVs to replace working ICE cars over 10 years ago, but now it’s really not.
Haven’t there been multiple cases of women getting gang raped on indian public transport?
Okay, that’s horrible, but in a country with around 1.5 billion people things can be both incredibly rare and happen every week.
well, it is car traffic in India, maybe in Dheli. can get quite crazy so I am not sure you are expecting them to walk there? but to be fair, not clear from the article.
I am indeed expecting them to walk. People (me included) walk longer distances in Indian traffic in far worse conditions, a kilometer is quite literally child’s play
I walked (or cycled or took the bus in the winter) to school when I was a kid, but this is not a safe environment, why do we want kids to walk here:
We know way too little about this situation to be judging this family so harshly. What if the child is disabled and has mobility issues? What if the walk is on a busy road with no sidewalks? What if the path is up and down a very steep hill? Maybe they can be walking this every day, but maybe not…if you wanna complain about the culture being car-centric, fine, but there’s not enough info to blame the family.
What if the walk is on a busy road with no sidewalks?
Guess what:
OP of course says that he’s used to walking in worse, therefore OOP’s kid should also just walk on the sidewalkless busy road.
Being driven to school has a bad effect on your spatial intelligence. Disabled kids don’t deserve that.
Alright, so I’m not a regular here, I’m a Gearhead who lives in an Unfortunately car centric area. I like cars, I think they’re neat, I HATE that we need them to commute.
I don’t understand why cars are being banned after an arbitrary time limit. 15 years for petrol? Until year I drove a 30 year old petrol Toyota which pulled almost 50MPG on the highway, could have done better with some simple mods but I live in the mountains and needed the power for uphill.
I understand the desire to keep older more polluting vehicles off the road but arbitrarily declaring vehicles EOL because of their age is ridiculous.
Am I missing the point here? I’d appreciate some input because this feels like a bad move all around.
The government’s purported logic is that emissions standards from 15 years ago were lax and are much tighter now and therefore vehicles of that age are contributing to pollution. On the face of it that makes sense; Delhi’s AQI is one of the worst in the world, and emissions standards here were pretty meh until the 2010s.
In reality it’s because the auto industry wants you to buy new cars. That’s it. If the government was actually focused on limiting pollution they’d be investing heavily in efficient public transit and walking/biking infrastructure and enforcing things like a congestion tax to push people towards said options, but they’re just offloading it on to regular people so they can make a fuckton of money without having to spend any.
all car bans should come with free bikes and public transport
1km 🤡
On the streets of New Delhi this will probably take just as long as walking. Need the AC though.
Longer. It takes about 12 minutes to walk 1km. A car in Delhi traffic will take about 20 minutes to cover that during the morning rush hour
I’ve been to Mumbai, and 1km is fine for us Europeans, but depending on their location, it can be a life-threatening experience due to the intense traffic, pollution and heat.
That sounds really dangerous. Someone should ban fuel there to make it safer.
Unfortunately fuel being burned in other countries is still heating up their environment.
Also idk if you’ve heard, but India isn’t exactly a rich place. A lot of people can’t afford EVs. Despite the fact that yes, the Indian market has cheap options available. But my man in the tweet has been nursing a Hyundai i10 for 15 years. He ain’t exactly trying to spend money on cars.
The entire policy is designed to hurt poor people that are car dependent (if you look at the photo of the street in his other tweet, you’ll see why he isn’t walking the 1 kilometer. There’s no sidewalk).
If the government also gave him a good public transit option with AC, the fuel ban could easily be justified. As it is now, rich people will buy newer cars and poor people will be criminals, or take on debt they can’t afford to get buy newer cars.
