They’re really targeting California as a whole now. The state that supported the union so much over history. Republicans must really feel jealous that it is the richest state.
Can USians at least try to save their country without immediately calling for secession? It’s so strange that people want to leave the States and break it apart without first making an effort.
Balkanization would be good for the states. Well, it would be good for some of the states, and for the world as a whole; it would be really bad for the people of the future Mormon Theocracy or whatever
No, it’s not. Nothing irreversible has happened yet. People have been saying this since Dubya. I was there when people threatened to leave with every election, saying they would move to Canada because the country was done for, and it got so old so fast.
Consider that the only thing you’re doing is completing a self-fulfilling prophecy if you don’t resist.
And honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if some Russian social engineering campaign is encouraging people to follow this trend by repeating it on social media. Do not give in.
T bag loves a good wall. The problem every time secession comes up is it’s not north vs south anymore, it’s city versus rural. I live in a small city in one of the most conservative states in the US. My state voted for Trump by the highest margin in the nation, both times.
From where I’m sitting right now on my porch, I can see two pride flags flying in my immediate neighborhood. Our mayor is a Democrat and she’s actually not horrible.
But if you go just a bit outside the city, those pride flags are replaced by traitor flags. You almost completely stop seeing nonwhite people, just a bit outside the tiny cities.
It’s not that bad everywhere, but if you think there aren’t a shitload of bootlicking fascists in rural California you will be very surprised. 38% of the state voted for Trump. More than 15 Roughly 6 million Californians. EDIT- I mathed bad
I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I doubt secession is in the cards for anyone unless the Union is dissolved.
I like to remind people that 38% of votes is not 38% of the population approving of him. you have to consider that not all the eligible population voted, and those who are non-eligible likely aren’t licking his boots either. closer to 15% of the CA population voted for Trump, just over 6 million votes.
No, the next step isn’t accepting what just happened. We need to discuss this and express our anger loud and clear so we can get everyone on the same page and feel the momentum.
Being quiet is how you get fascist conformity. They can’t arrest everyone, and they won’t.
Taxes are paid by individuals directly to the federal government. If an individual doesn’t pay their federal tax, the federal government goes after that individual. The federal government will take an individual’s money right out of their bank account. There’s no way for the state to withhold federal payments.
State taxes are filed separately and don’t go to the federal government.
I think you need to explain it. Because the vast majority of federal income is from federal income taxes which the state has absolutely no ability to stop. It’s between the federal government and the citizen. If the State of California secedes the people still have bank accounts that the federal government will seize.
Also because it’s the largest progressive state in size. If they can take down California then they will cheer it on as a major victory. Next up on the hit list the other blue states, Canada and finally Europe.
They’re really targeting California as a whole now. The state that supported the union so much over history. Republicans must really feel jealous that it is the richest state.
california needs to fucking secede and newsom needs to sack up and put the money where his mouth is.
You threaten to withhold federal taxes. Shit continues, You fucking do it. Once they know your threats are empty, the game is fucking over.
Republic of California
New California Republic (or NCR for short)
and now for the anthem:
wp:I Love You, California
wc:File:“I Love You, California”, by Knickerbocker Quartet and Elizabeth Spencer (cusb-cyl5053d).oga
I.
I love you, California, you’re the greatest state of all.
I love you in the winter, summer, spring and in the fall.
I love your fertile valleys; your dear mountains I adore.
I love your grand old ocean and I love her rugged shore.
Chorus
When the snow crowned Golden Sierras
Keep their watch o’er the valleys bloom,
It is there I would be in our land by the sea,
Every breeze bearing rich perfume.
It is here nature gives of her rarest. It is Home Sweet Home to me,
And I know when I die I shall breathe my last sigh
For my sunny California.
Please. We all know this is the real anthem of California.
Nancy Sinatra - California Girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMmcNYZjuEo
3:09
Secede? No, fuck that. Declare the current administration to be committing treason and lay seige upon the white house.
Not leaving fascists with nukes to endanger the world.
Can USians at least try to save their country without immediately calling for secession? It’s so strange that people want to leave the States and break it apart without first making an effort.
Balkanization would be good for the states. Well, it would be good for some of the states, and for the world as a whole; it would be really bad for the people of the future Mormon Theocracy or whatever
no. the US no longer represents us or our values. fuck it.
Because the effort is no longer worthwhile. This country is irrevocably broken.
No, it’s not. Nothing irreversible has happened yet. People have been saying this since Dubya. I was there when people threatened to leave with every election, saying they would move to Canada because the country was done for, and it got so old so fast.
Consider that the only thing you’re doing is completing a self-fulfilling prophecy if you don’t resist.
And honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if some Russian social engineering campaign is encouraging people to follow this trend by repeating it on social media. Do not give in.
There is so much rot in congress, due to money. The fourth estate (the media) is also rotten to the core, due to money.
Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission in 2010 is one of the irreversible things that happened already.
Seceding is probably not the right answer either, but it’s a serious uphill battle for We, the people, to regain control over Congress.
you are so naive it hurts.
Thanks, you too, I’ve seen you around. Lemme block right away. You still got that insufferable Reddit attitude written all over.
and you’ve still got that moronic everything will be alright attitude
take your fucking head out of the ground or try and pry it out of your ass.
What was germany after ww2 then?
If the country is irrevocably broken how do you ensure a peaceful relationship when there’s two?
T bag loves a good wall. The problem every time secession comes up is it’s not north vs south anymore, it’s city versus rural. I live in a small city in one of the most conservative states in the US. My state voted for Trump by the highest margin in the nation, both times.
From where I’m sitting right now on my porch, I can see two pride flags flying in my immediate neighborhood. Our mayor is a Democrat and she’s actually not horrible.
But if you go just a bit outside the city, those pride flags are replaced by traitor flags. You almost completely stop seeing nonwhite people, just a bit outside the tiny cities.
It’s not that bad everywhere, but if you think there aren’t a shitload of bootlicking fascists in rural California you will be very surprised. 38% of the state voted for Trump.
More than 15Roughly 6 million Californians. EDIT- I mathed badI don’t know what’s going to happen, but I doubt secession is in the cards for anyone unless the Union is dissolved.
I like to remind people that 38% of votes is not 38% of the population approving of him. you have to consider that not all the eligible population voted, and those who are non-eligible likely aren’t licking his boots either. closer to 15% of the CA population voted for Trump, just over 6 million votes.
Good point. I know that and don’t know why I did the math that badly.
I’ve started using USAmericans, reflecting the full name of the country: USA, not US
Hi friend, it seems you forgot the post you’re in. Don’t you think people need a safe space to ensure they won’t get taken away for standing up?
No, the next step isn’t accepting what just happened. We need to discuss this and express our anger loud and clear so we can get everyone on the same page and feel the momentum.
Being quiet is how you get fascist conformity. They can’t arrest everyone, and they won’t.
Taxes are paid by individuals directly to the federal government. If an individual doesn’t pay their federal tax, the federal government goes after that individual. The federal government will take an individual’s money right out of their bank account. There’s no way for the state to withhold federal payments.
State taxes are filed separately and don’t go to the federal government.
there are many many ways not to pay taxes. i’m not gonna sit here and explain to you.
I think you need to explain it. Because the vast majority of federal income is from federal income taxes which the state has absolutely no ability to stop. It’s between the federal government and the citizen. If the State of California secedes the people still have bank accounts that the federal government will seize.
No they don’t. Keep it all up. Republicans currently in power have destroyed their parties future.
Since coming to power the damage that has been done to the right has shifted western democracies so hard left they are getting whiplash.
It’s a progressive state, I think that’s why they target it
Also because it’s the largest progressive state in size. If they can take down California then they will cheer it on as a major victory. Next up on the hit list the other blue states, Canada and finally Europe.