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      Counterpoint: We’ve tried a lot and there’s no magic fix to this issue.

      The objective truth is that there are far more gun laws in the United States today than there was 60 years ago. To give a single example; in 1968 you could literally mail order a firearm directly to your doorstep. No background check, no registry, no nothing. In fact that’s how Lee Harvey Oswald got the rifle he used to shoot President Kennedy.

      Yet despite the vast increase in firearms laws both the Homicide and Suicide by firearm rates in 2023 are very close to 1968.

      You can argue that we haven’t done enough but to say that we’ve tried nothing is completely ridiculous.

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            Yes, of course, you’re right, there’s no difference whatsoever between the per capita firearms deaths and that article completely invalidates my point.

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              Then you should have made that argument instead of stepping forward with the weak sauce you used.

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                I didn’t bother referencing a source for the same reason I wouldn’t bother if we were talking about how common sugar is in processed food. Nowhere else has the issues with guns the US has. Everyone who doesn’t live under a rock knows that.

                The Onion has a set article that they republish constantly about school shootings because it’s such a shambles.

                So no, I didn’t, because I respected your intelligence enough to assume you’d know. The US’ relationship with firearms is a massive outlier and causes huge amounts of preventable deaths.

                We hold these truths to be self-fucking-evident.

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          Uh huh, so Cops going door to door to take the guns away from the 24% of Black and 15% of Latinos who own them. I’m sure that would go super well! Excellent suggestion! /s

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            the suggestion is tongue-in-cheek in that i think it will specifically not go well for the cops

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              It ain’t gonna go well for the folks at home either. Your “tongue-in-cheek” comment is a thin veneer over brutality, violence, and death on a massive scale. Literally tens of millions of people.

              It isn’t clever and it isn’t funny.

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                  America right now is somehow simultaneously the best its ever been and enormously fucked up. I’m in my 50s and the amount of positive change, particularly social, I’ve experienced in my lifetime is incredible.

                  There are definitely problems that need solved, Gun Violence is one of them, but the story of America isn’t over. We’re in a period of turmoil right now but we’ll come out of it better than what we started. Just like we have before.

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          Sweety do you really think they’ll be taking guns from other Nazis?

          Facism is knocking, and its armed and dangerous.

          Id love to finish my transition, and attempt live out the rest of my life happy, but that might have to come to a screeching halt if I see some of these ICE fuckers in my neck of the woods.

          The streets are running red, and its the wrong blood flowing.