• phx@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    She’s not wrong, but also not 100% right. Racism plays a part, but there’s also a good helping of “I’ve got mine” along with a whole lot of money tired into the military-industrial complex

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        Eh, not necessarily. Class consciousness is important, but thinking that it completely overlaps with social consciousness not true. People compartmentalize things.

        For example male black homophobes are common in America; Which is ironic because one would think that a black male would understand how it feels being a marginalized caste. Nevertheless, they do not transfer there own experience of racism with their own actions against homosexuals.

        So my point is, being class conscious does not guarantee someone to become social conscious as well.

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          Hell yeah. We’ve even got people who voted Trump despite illegal immigrants in their family, or being married to one because: “he’s only going to deport the bad ones”.

          There’s also people who themselves came in the same way but eventually did get legal standing/citizenship yet are in full support of what’s going on now.

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          3 days ago

          Being bad at one is what makes you bad at the other. Nazbols aren’t class conscious, the term means more than “vaguely aware that the rich run things and maybe they shouldn’t”

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            Restating your prior point in a different way doesn’t make it any more or less correct. The point is these two things seem to be independent from each other, which, if true, would already disprove the modified claim you are presenting.

            The issue is, there exist plenty of people who are bad at both, good at both, and bad at one and good at the other. This pattern doesn’t support a strong connection between being class conscious and being socially conscious.

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              The thing about explaining simple math like x=y is that the slower, stubborn students that don’t know or understand how these letters can mean numbers usually just need it to be phrased a different way because they’re hung up on some irrelevancey.

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                23 hours ago

                The correct method is to actually articulate the irrelevancy; but that takes real work… Either that or perhaps the teacher doesn’t understand what the irrelevancy is, so instead, they resort to just repeating the same thing: not internalizing that perhaps the math isn’t as simple as they think.