Except your reasoning for this revolves around optics
Except it doesn’t, despite you trying to say it does. Ive explicitly mentioned they don’t matter, and explained the reasons. You ignored them. This isn’t about his protesting is perceived. It is what is achieved by it.
I feel like I’ve written that a dozen times now, ffs.
“The tanks are still gonna roll in and kill everyone”
Well then if you’re so set on this infantile absolutist daydream of yours, why not go out as a moral person? And no, moral doesn’t mean “not opposing injustice”. As I’ve explained another dozen times, you have the duty to oppose unjust laws, (like you conveniently reminded us in your last comment, despite me going on and on about civil disobedience — almost as if you didn’t understand the term or hadn’t properly read the replies) and you have the right to assembly. The right to assembly is old as fuck, and if they try to take it away, yeah, it’s time for a revolution. But see, you don’t have the right to a riot.
So if you’re actively rioting, the police are within their rights to come and disband and apprehend people to stop it.
If, however, you’re exercising youre right to assembly, then they can’t do that.
Now imagine a scenario in which there’s active rioting. The police can go in and take every single person, no matter how peaceful, under the guide of suppressing a riot. If everyone keeps their cool, when when shot with rubber bullets, teargassed, pushed, even arrested, then the cops will have to keep manufacturing completely bullshit reasons.
If the the right to assembly is clearly revoked and a dictatorship installed, there’s right to rebel. Until then, you shouldn’t, if you want to live in a democracy. Because it’s the best move. I know it, Bernie knows it and Chomsky knows it. You’d know that had you actually read any of his works.
Breaking the law doesn’t matter. Non-violence does. Breaking the law is again very much included in the “civil disobedience” I’ve mentioned a couple of dozen times now. Weird how you can’t reply to any of my comments about you having missed that?
The civil rights movement organized sit ins and nonviolent demonstrations knowing full well that they’d be subject to assault and arrest. Them doing those things knowing what it meant made their point for them. You asked “why give them a reason to punish you?”, and this is why.
Are you high on acid? “The civil rights movement organized sit ins and nonviolent demonstrations”. Why did you write “non-violent” there? Perhaps because there people had to stress, emphasise, NON-VIOLENCE, just as Bernie is doing, and who’s point I’m here reiterating now for the umpteenth time in a row.
So what is it you’re advocating for or arguing against?
That doesn’t invalidate the nonviolent parts of that protest
And why would it? Where the fuck did you pull out that I implied that? Please, be specific. Except you can’t, since you’re just larping intelligence, linking some dumb-ass YouTube shorts, quotin shit about “we’ve a moral duty to oppose unjust laws” because your dumb-ass didn’t understand what “civil disobedience” mean.
I tried adopting your tone for a while so you can see how writing something like that would look like I’m getting aggravated. Except I’m not. But you clearly are. Why? Do you think this is personal? I’m advocating for the best strategy for the US to get itself out of this shitty situation, but luckily, you don’t need to listen to me, as Bernie made the points well enough, and I’m just backing him.
I’m advocating against complacency you dumbass.
Again, just like I keep reminding you of your naive absolutes, I’d also like to remind you that just because you think something, doesn’t make it true. If you don’t understand the rhetoric you’re pushing, then maybe it’s not the rhetoric you think it is.
You are implicitly advocating for complacency with your naive absolutes. You just don’t realise it. You’re perpetuating apathy. And apathy is the greatest tool of the opressor. Anywhere.
Nah, that’s what you think you’re doing, but you’re coming off as a nag.
Oh, like your mom, when she tells you that girls won’t like a boy who doesn’t bathe or shower and wears dirty undies?
Except it doesn’t, despite you trying to say it does. Ive explicitly mentioned they don’t matter, and explained the reasons. You ignored them. This isn’t about his protesting is perceived. It is what is achieved by it.
I feel like I’ve written that a dozen times now, ffs.
“The tanks are still gonna roll in and kill everyone”
Well then if you’re so set on this infantile absolutist daydream of yours, why not go out as a moral person? And no, moral doesn’t mean “not opposing injustice”. As I’ve explained another dozen times, you have the duty to oppose unjust laws, (like you conveniently reminded us in your last comment, despite me going on and on about civil disobedience — almost as if you didn’t understand the term or hadn’t properly read the replies) and you have the right to assembly. The right to assembly is old as fuck, and if they try to take it away, yeah, it’s time for a revolution. But see, you don’t have the right to a riot.
So if you’re actively rioting, the police are within their rights to come and disband and apprehend people to stop it.
If, however, you’re exercising youre right to assembly, then they can’t do that.
Now imagine a scenario in which there’s active rioting. The police can go in and take every single person, no matter how peaceful, under the guide of suppressing a riot. If everyone keeps their cool, when when shot with rubber bullets, teargassed, pushed, even arrested, then the cops will have to keep manufacturing completely bullshit reasons.
If the the right to assembly is clearly revoked and a dictatorship installed, there’s right to rebel. Until then, you shouldn’t, if you want to live in a democracy. Because it’s the best move. I know it, Bernie knows it and Chomsky knows it. You’d know that had you actually read any of his works.
Breaking the law doesn’t matter. Non-violence does. Breaking the law is again very much included in the “civil disobedience” I’ve mentioned a couple of dozen times now. Weird how you can’t reply to any of my comments about you having missed that?
Are you high on acid? “The civil rights movement organized sit ins and nonviolent demonstrations”. Why did you write “non-violent” there? Perhaps because there people had to stress, emphasise, NON-VIOLENCE, just as Bernie is doing, and who’s point I’m here reiterating now for the umpteenth time in a row.
So what is it you’re advocating for or arguing against?
And why would it? Where the fuck did you pull out that I implied that? Please, be specific. Except you can’t, since you’re just larping intelligence, linking some dumb-ass YouTube shorts, quotin shit about “we’ve a moral duty to oppose unjust laws” because your dumb-ass didn’t understand what “civil disobedience” mean.
I tried adopting your tone for a while so you can see how writing something like that would look like I’m getting aggravated. Except I’m not. But you clearly are. Why? Do you think this is personal? I’m advocating for the best strategy for the US to get itself out of this shitty situation, but luckily, you don’t need to listen to me, as Bernie made the points well enough, and I’m just backing him.
Again, just like I keep reminding you of your naive absolutes, I’d also like to remind you that just because you think something, doesn’t make it true. If you don’t understand the rhetoric you’re pushing, then maybe it’s not the rhetoric you think it is.
You are implicitly advocating for complacency with your naive absolutes. You just don’t realise it. You’re perpetuating apathy. And apathy is the greatest tool of the opressor. Anywhere.
Oh, like your mom, when she tells you that girls won’t like a boy who doesn’t bathe or shower and wears dirty undies?
Yeah, that’s called schooling you.