• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Trumps votes barely changed from 2020 to 2024. Whay changed is 8 million less people voted for Kamala tban Biden.

    We did not follow the path, we abandoned the DNC and that is why we have fascism.

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      The Democrats lost ground with every demographic but college educated women. 2020 was an unusually high turnout election. 2024 was a regression to the mean, yet Trump’s vote total went up.

      Blaming the voters is just electoral masturbation. It doesn’t lead anywhere. Do you have a plan to get better voters in 2028? Blaming voters is for politicians that don’t care about winning. In other words, it’s for establishment Democrats.

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        My plan is that hopefully enough people get their memory jogged to decide Trump really is a shit candidate who makes literally everything worse.

        Also promote the Democrats with logic and reason, and volunteer.

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          Your plan is the same plan the establishment uses in every single election. It’s the definition of insanity.

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            There is nothing else. If reason consistently loses to animalistic selfishness then this entire species is doomed.

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              Hmmm, “There is nothing else”. I’m rolling that around in my head and I just can’t figure out how that doesn’t imply that Democrats ran the best campaign they could.

              It’s just reality that people need more than competent administrators. They need inspiration and they need leaders. Republicans inspire hate and lead people to ignorance. Democrats inspire nobody and lead them nowhere. Then Democrats whine that they can’t win because people are ignorant and hateful.

              You cannot win elections by just being a more competent manager. Most voters aren’t competent enough to even recognize it. That’s how voters have always been. It’s nothing new.

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                To imply the Democrats could run a better campaign is to say that Trump was a better choice. We need people to wake the fuck up and remove the biggest problem first and foremost.

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                  The Democrats could have run a far better campaign against Trump than they did. Trump was not a better choice, but he did run a better campaign.

                  If you want people to “wake the fuck up” then you need Democratic leadership that isn’t intent on putting them to sleep. The establishment doesn’t like it’s citizens awake.

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      We did not follow the path, we abandoned the DNC and that is why we have fascism.

      The DNC abandoned us and expected unconditional votes.