• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    5 days ago

    The rocks are in the same frame of references the passengers. The only difference is they’re not seat belted in so there is room for some small differences in acceleration.

    If your car is doing 50 the rocks are doing 50 and then do have a fair amount of inertia compared to the outside world, but everything in the car has that same inertia. That two-ton automobile is the actual danger.

    Absolute worst case those rocks aren’t seeing any more than a couple of G, let’s say you max out at around 3G which would be a little bit intense for car related escapades. The rock hitting you in the backseat would be like maybe it falling a dozen feet and landing on you absolute worst case.

    Now, if you didn’t have a windscreen, and you hit a stone wall that stopped you immediately The rocks would have a 50 mph variance to the wall. But, honestly, 50 mph on a rock is not really significant. Baseball pitchers double that.

    You could try to argue that hitting another oncoming car would give them a 100 mph variance. But at that point the rocks aren’t the problem the hundred mile an hour variance between the two multi-ton cars is more than enough.

    The old wise tale that putting things on your dash turn them into dangerous high speed projectiles is false.

    I think if you were looking for a solid argument of them being a bad idea, they will easily roll off your dash, get under your feet and would have a much better chance of interfering with your pedals.

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      5 days ago

      In a crash, the car, you and anything else are all separate objects. Crash designers attempt to couple you to the car via your seatbelt and airbag. Rocks are free-floating.

      When you crash, the car experiences a sudden deceleration. You’re moving forward and the rocks are moving forward. The rocks will move forward until they hit the windshield and then they will bounce. They will also receive some of the energy experienced by the car’s deceleration - which is MASSIVE relative to the mass of a rock.

      Depending on the size of the rocks and the speed of the crash, those rocks very well may become bullets. Especially due to their high velocity and potentially small surface area.

      I feel like some person genuinely attempting to look out for the safety of someone else and being lambasted for it is wild. Follow the advice if you wish but it’s not like this is uncharted territory. Automotive engineers have been mapping crash dynamics for literal decades…

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      5 days ago

      Now, if you didn’t have a windscreen, and you hit a stone wall that stopped you immediately The rocks would have a 50 mph variance to the wall. But, honestly, 50 mph on a rock is not really significant. Baseball pitchers double that.

      Why don’t you get a couple rocks thrown at your face with 50mph and get back to me?

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        4 days ago

        That would require 50 to 0 in an instant you’d be dead anyway. If you don’t back down the attitude I’m just going to block you anyway.

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          4 days ago

          Now you’re going through my comments and downvoting? Don’t you have anything better to do with your time? Please, just block me and go on with your life.

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              4 days ago

              Yeah, well, it wasn’t me. You can check it yourself, votes are public, where I also saw that you’re downvoting my recent comments. So please just stop, block me and go on, alright?

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                3 days ago

                I just went and reviewed your responses that I downvoted from that thread, and I reversed two because they were unfair.

                Honestly, the rest, you’re just dying on this hill to die on it. You’re swearing on things that you have been told and aren’t listening to anyone or any physics, your comments aren’t doing anyone any good here and a number of them appear to be guesses you’ve made on the assumption that it must have happened to someone somewhere, regardless of the odds.

                Should someone put rocks on their dashboard (which was btw probably a joke by op) no. It’s is going to turn them into bullets and blind you and your passengers or kill some innocent bystanders? no.