• ℛ𝒶𝓋ℯ𝓃@pawb.social
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    14 小时前

    There’s gotta be a lot of ppl realizing they have tear gas immunity these days… (it’s fairly common, military basic training always has that one guy who’s unaffected).

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      14 小时前

      Also a lot of people realizing after the fact how much it tore up their bodies in ways that don’t ever get better. Chemical weapons are bad, whether it’s because they don’t work or that they have lasting side effects.

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      14 小时前

      I did a couple rounds in the tear gas chamber in basic training, because i felt nothing at all. Don’t know if I am immune or lucky

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        13 小时前

        Wait a decade or two and see how your lungs react to that contamination. That exposure might have shortened your life by a few years or decades.

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          12 小时前

          That’s a bit hyperbolic. The fact of the matter is, there has been an irresponsible lack of studies conducted on the long-term effects of tear gas exposure:

          https://med.umn.edu/news/u-m-study-shows-little-research-available-long-term-effects-tear-gas-use

          However, the CDC does warn that it could potentially cause issues long-term:

          https://www.cdc.gov/chemical-emergencies/chemical-fact-sheets/riot-control-agents.html

          The bottom line: Governments should be strictly regulating the use of these agents until further research is conducted. The fact that people with asthma can fucking die from the exposure should be justification enough, let alone other potential long-term side effects.

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            11 小时前

            My wife has Pulmonary Fibrosis … a condition where lung tissue has been inflamed by some contaminate and the immune system generates a run away reaction that can’t stop. It inflames one part of the lung tissue and then grows … until you have no more lung tissue left and the person dies from it.

            My wife was infected by what we think was a minor virus or bacterial infection about six years ago and since then, the infection grew out of control until she had this permanent fibrosis. It wasn’t because she was weak, was more exposed or less exposed or whatever … I had the same infection but I got over it, she didn’t. And this type of infection can be caused by viruses, bacteria, mold, chemical or biological contaminants.

            When I talked to a doctor friend of ours about it later, he said it was just luck of the draw. Your lung tissue is basically delicate tissue that is directly exposed to the environment … it can be affected by anything and sometimes the right event happens to trigger an immune response in the wrong way … it’s like an infection lottery … most times people get infected and then recover … but every once in a while, you win the infection lottery and your immune system is triggered and you now have runaway fibrosis and a ticket to an early death.

            No medical expert can say why it happens, how or to whom but it happens … and it almost doesn’t matter if you are unhealthy, healthy, fit, young, old, fat, skinny or whatever genetics, its basically just chance infections … not every time and not to everyone but if you happen to be the lucky person to win this great lottery, then your lungs are screwed.

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        13 小时前

        Nah, they just bring you into a sealed room and light some CS pellets in a little stove. It’s usually in concentrations greater than what a typical CS grenade contains.

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          Yes and no. Plenty of people have stories about learning to keep their mask quickly accessible. Shit like being on a 5 mile ruck, then 4 miles into it they get gassed by surprise. Usually only a few days after they have gone through mask training, so they should know to have their mask handy. But there are always inevitably a bunch of dudes rolling around with burning eyes, trying to dig their mask out of the very bottom of their pack.

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      13 小时前

      From what I heard it’s not actually a gas but very fine powder, so if you keep your eyes protected a.d don’t rub it it’s doable.