• theneverfox@pawb.social
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    1 day ago

    But like… What you’re describing is just culture.

    (In most American culture) If you eat kimchi or a tuna fish sandwich for breakfast, people will call you out for being weird. You can talk to your cashier if you like, but if there’s a line behind you there’s an expectation that you’ll wrap it up once you’ve finished paying. In fact, it’s frowned upon to impede work in any way, and people will confront you over it. You don’t have to bring back your cart, because consumption and convenience are held above the public interest

    Even the way you dress… If you wear a toga, people will approach you to ask why, and will often react negatively if you don’t have a reason. Or they might support your widening of cultural norms

    Even challenging the culture is done within cultural norms. You can challenge food preconceptions if you acknowledge it’s weird first and insist it’s actually good. You can dress up as Batman and ask for money, or you can have someone recording you, or signal you’re in transit to a place where it would be appropriate… If you go about your normal day as Batman in suburbia, people will respond with actual fear, because you’re deviating from the culture instead of challenging it

    Every moment of your life is lived in the context of your culture. Culture is the guardrails, and they’ve always been there. Some are explicitly taught to children, like queue etiquette and punctuality, others are unspoken and learned through interactions with others

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      1 day ago

      If you go about your normal day as Batman in suburbia, people will respond with actual fear, because you’re deviating from the culture instead of challenging it

      Culture is the guardrails

      Those things exist yes. They’re the guidelines.

      De guardrails is the law. Even though it’s exceptional to walk as Batman, and people respond scared to it, it should be legal. In the socialist utopia that should be illegal, because it affects others.

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        Um… Then you’re not describing a utopia, you’re describing a perfect totalitarian state.

        It should not be against the law to be rude or dress up as Batman. That’s insane. That’s the literal end goal of fascism - to give full control of every aspect of society over to the state, and then indoctrinate future generations to be perfect extensions of the state. They just also usually want it to be an ethno-state, but it can also be done through nationalism or ideological purity

        In a utopia, laws should be mostly vestigial. You’re supposed to fix the root causes of violence by helping people become well adjusted in a high trust post-scarcity society, not perfectly codify acceptable human behavior and crack down on it with stormtroopers