Women are taught to nurture and develop men. That’s great, except sometimes trying puts you at risk, and it’s often not reciprocated. Who here has got stuck in the past?

  • klemptor@startrek.website
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    14 hours ago

    Holy shit I never stopped to think about the Wizard of Oz in that way!

    Luckily I haven’t been in this situation. I feel so badly for women who have, it looks draining and stressful.

  • slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de
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    16 hours ago

    This reminds me of the moment i was actively listening to the lyrics of "paranoid” for the first time (i heared the song before, i just didn’t really listen)

    Finished with my woman 'Cause she couldn’t help me with my mind

    And i thought:

    Well, Ozzy, maybe that’s because:

    • she wasn’t supposed to
    • it was not her job
    • she might have been occupied with her own mind, which can be plenty of work for one person alone
    • you probably did not pay her a psychiatrist salary
    • she probably was not trained to do so
    • if she was trained and you didn’t pay her, then why should she?
    • if she was not trained eventhough you paid her, then why could she?
    • if she is not trained and you didn’t pay her, then why would she?
    • and if she is trained and you did pay her then it is not your woman it is your therapist with whom you engage in a prosessional relationship
    • your expectation is unrealistic in the first place, how dare you writing lyrics like that, making persons think that those are valid expectations to have.

    Anyway, in my experience men never really want “help” or change things. They just like complaining about stuff. They complain about their own flaws and especially yours (his partners) flaws, flaws in the world, the politics, persons at work, the boss. In my experience whenever i offered help to deal with some stuff they usually complained about, they don’t want to hear it. They don’t even want to try. They just expect you to be some sort of sponge that absorbs all the rambling about everything that sucks for them.

    • also, Ozzy, what did you do to help your mind?
    • LadyButterflyshe/her@lazysoci.alOPM
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      7 hours ago

      Totally agree with everything you say about Ozzy. And there are too many men who just don’t do what they need to do about THEIR problems

      • foxglove (she/her)@lazysoci.alM
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        13 hours ago

        thanks for your comment, but unfortunately this community has a rule that only women are permitted to comment, hope you understand 💛

      • slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de
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        14 hours ago

        Well, i don’t usually date women, so can not really tell what is a “woman”-thing or a “man”-thing to do. It is possible that it is just a “human”-thing. However, the post was specifically asking for our experiences with men, so…

        Maybe late disclaimer: this is just my experience (as i said), my experience does not mean your experience is not true/valid/plausible/meaningful. Women can also be at fault/problematic/the problem (obviously and nobody even claimed that). Not all men are like that (obviously and nobody even claimed that).