• BroBot9000@lemmy.worldEnglish
    128·
    2 days ago

    Absolutely can’t stand the “I have nothing to hide” response. Like y’all aren’t parroting Nazi propaganda.

    • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
      67·
      2 days ago

      “nothing to hide”

      just wait until your smart fridge notifies your insurance company (who knows you’re diabetic) that you just bought a gallon of NOT sugar free ice cream. think they’ll give a rat’s ass that it’s not for you? i bet they’ll be more than happy to raise your premiums either way. or worse

      • HeyJoe@lemmy.world
        16·
        2 days ago

        I am in the minority but if i ever had a fridge that’s costing me money like that it would never be a brand I would ever associate with ever again and the current one is being tossed ASAP. I’m also not connecting fridges to my wifi either because why should it be?

          • HeyJoe@lemmy.world
            14·
            2 days ago

            You got me on the phone, but my car is from 2007 and doesn’t even have Bluetooth lol so I am good on that one for now. I do try a little by removing all the stock apps, no social media except this, and lock down my network to block as many sites that report home from lists online. Since I’m home 90% of the week, if not more, im at least doing more than most would.

        • glitchdx@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          2 days ago

          ring doorbells can connect to the Internet through each other. Imagine a fridge made by amazon that uses the same network. Now imagine amazon giving discounts to apartments making it more attractive to cheapskate landlords. I can imagine insurance companies paying amazon surprisingly small sums to make this happen.

        • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
          14·
          2 days ago

          In the future, all Fridges will do it. You’ll have 10 brands to choose from but they’ll all collect your personal data and send it out via built in cell service.

          • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
            15·
            2 days ago

            the data they collect from scanning the upcs in your fridge alone would be worth millions-- how fast you consume one thing vs another, how far away you live from the store (derived from data shared taken from your grocery “rewards/membership” card), what kinds of meals you’re making with the ingredients, and the size of those meals— all information they will exploit to make even more money from you

            in case you were joking: you weren’t really

          • riot@lemmy.world
            6·
            2 days ago

            And in this future scenario, even if it isn’t all fridges that phone home, or you somehow manage to disable it on a fridge that does, I’m sure that’ll make your premium go up too. It’ll be advertised as a cost-saving measure - “Give us access to this data, and you premium will be less! (Until we see you buying something outside of your plan, in which case, you’ll have to pay more)”

    • entwine413@lemm.ee
      20·
      2 days ago

      When someone says this irl, I like to ask them if I can go look through their underwear drawer.

      Oddly enough the people with nothing to hide usually say no.

      • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 day ago

        This reminds me of when a neighbor reported to the landlord that we were smoking weed indoors. She claimed she could smell it in her own apartment. We weren’t (and weed is legal where I live, so it’s a moot point.) When the landlord came around, we let him come in and smell our apartment. He found nothing.

        So we suggested that the landlord go smell HER (the narc’s) apartment to confirm how bad the smell is. Guess what? She refused to let him in.

        If she ever attempts to complain again, the procedure now will be to investigate her apartment first. If she refuses, we won’t be bothered. So yeah.

      • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        10·
        2 days ago

        Underwear drawer is nothing compared to their actual phone.

        If they have nothing to hide, then you should be able to install a mirroring app so that you can log onto their phone at anytime for any reason.

        I don’t get any takers on this either.

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
      132·
      2 days ago

      It is a weird cope and it is wild how that’s the default response to vast majority of the people.

      Is bootlicking programed into human DNA?

      I don’t get it. ESP being smug about it to boot.

      • lath@lemmy.world
        319·
        2 days ago

        Yes it is. Biologically speaking, we’re programmed to make way for the strong and steal crumbs from the devastation caused by their passing.

        Or to stalk and annoy the strong until they fall and we can pillage their corpse.

        Either way, we’re not really the direct confrontation type. We’re the sneaky, backstabby, dirty fighting type.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
      8·
      2 days ago

      “Commander Vimes didn’t like the phrase ‘The innocent have nothing to fear’, believing the innocent had everything to fear, mostly from the guilty.”

    • okgurl@lemmy.world
      115·
      2 days ago

      I’m not parroting anything. I just also realize the vast scale of the data imo makes most of it worthless outside of demographics ad targeting lol

      • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
        21·
        2 days ago

        the vast scale of the data imo makes most of it worthless outside of demographics ad targeting

        Not when each point is matched to a unique machine (i.e. user) ID. It’s not anonymous, it’s “anonymized” which is just snake oil (replace your actual name with a unique ID).

        Also, I find ad targeting bad enough all by itself.

  • Regna@lemmy.worldEnglish
    331·
    2 days ago

    I just had that comment the other day from a recruiter who “dug into” my socials with the help of “expert tools”. She said “Aww… you seem really nice to everyone!” (eller “Faaaan… du framstår som så trevlig mot allt och alla!”) after browsing all my non-anonymous social posts and seeing which Facebook groups I’ve participated in. I had just about deleted my Meta accounts before I realized I needed to have some kind of semblance of “social posting”, as my LinkedIn and such were pretty meager. The recruiting company unfortunately seems to prove that I need to have a social media trail in order to be employable in my field of expertise. Which has literally nothing to do with social media.

    • entwine413@lemm.ee
      23·
      2 days ago

      Maybe that’s why I can’t even get to the first round of interviews despite a decade of experience in the field.

    • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zipEnglish
      41·
      2 days ago

      Fortunately for you, LLMs are obnoxiously friendly, so why not generate a few slops of happiness for Meta every now and then. As a bonus, you’ll be polluting their next model too. It’s a win-win situation!

  • hddsx@lemmy.ca
    101·
    2 days ago

    I have nothing to hide, except my alternative media sources. I also have absolutely nothing I’d like to share though.

    Just because I have nothing to hide doesn’t mean I’m going to keep my front door open and let you catalogue everything I own and watch everything I do

  • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
    4·
    2 days ago

    Oh yeah. I have seen many a comic with the comparison and apple even had an ad about it. Its crazy what people will put up with for so little and if it were the government, oh boy, but you know all good because corporations have our best interest or they are not as powerful as governments to control us or ruin our lives… /s

    • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      I have seen many people say they’ll never buy a thing they’re advertised. Me too

      Nobody is completely immune to manipulation, they’re only getting better at manipulation, and even if it doesn’t work on you, it works on others.

      I know it sounds insane to call it this, but language hasn’t kept up with the digital age: it’s stalking, brainwashing, and stealing.

      Following a target around, cataloguing their habits, and deliberately manipulating their thoughts and behaviors until they buy what you want them to buy. That’s what modern advertising is.

        • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          Respect on the reduce/reuse consumption habits. Though it’s definitely a good call-out that they get you through loved ones, and not just through a family member saying “I want this, please buy it” but also through a loved one being manipulated into buying something and saying “I own this and recommend it”

          Stalking by a person is insane, but remember that people have access to the data. It’s not just a faceless corporation. It’s literally humans sitting at desks. Most companies fail the most basic security principles of “minimum access necessary” and there are human beings, right now, who can freely look up other human beings in these databases.

          There are plenty of stories of for e.g. nurses breaking HIPAA by looking up health records of celebrities or exes, but the only reason we know about those is because HIPAA exists.

          Human beings can use this data to stalk you as human beings, without you ever being able to know that they did in any way, shape, or form. They can learn more about you and your family from a search query than a PI could ever learn from sitting outside your house.

          Not to mention actual security breaches, as well as voluntarily or involuntarily complying with government demands for data… which are still human beings reading those results.

          I don’t want to minimize the real lived experiences of stalking, those are awful and unbelievable destructive. It’s a terrible crime.

          But I am trying to express the fact that all of the same dangers of being stalked are clear and present in these systems, we just don’t acknowledge them.