The Chinese auto market is innovating and evolving super fast. You have to be involved in hyper-innovation in the EV sector specifically if you want to see increasing sales. And if you are not doing much in the EV sector, well, good luck and most likely RIP. More than 50% ... [continued]
Thing is barely anyone actually buys regular cabs so from the get go it’s a bad comparison as sure those small trucks existed, but there weren’t that many on the road. When you look at an extended cab mid size with 6’ bed truck today vs in 1995 you end up with a truck that is taller sure (the design makes it look worse than it actually is really), but isn’t actually that much larger or longer. The same thing is true for all trucks if your compare apples to apples.
If you then take cash tests into consideration well things don’t look good for those small trucks from back in the day… Body-on-frame isn’t the best for crumple zones and stuff like that, but it’s necessary to take actual load.
So yeah, people can complain that super small trucks don’t exist anymore but if they did they wouldn’t buy them anyway.
That’s where the complaints come from so yes North America is the market I’m talking about
Truck specs aren’t hard to find either, people don’t bother checking the actual measurements though and instead rely on bad comparisons like a Ford Ranger with a regular cab vs an F150 with a crew cab to prove their point
Not necessarily, those kinds of huge vehicles are showing up in Europe too and a lot of Europeans HATE them. And this article is about the Chinese not liking them…
And you’re missing the point entirely. The complaints are coming from people that are specifically ignoring the class of truck when comparing, as they do not want larger classes to even exist. They do not believe these enormous monstrosities should be a thing, so why in the world would they ever compare them to other trucks they consider monstrosities? “Hey guys see, out of these two things I hate, one is worse!” ???
Then compare a Ford Ranger (like on the picture) from back in the day to a current model year and you’ll soon realize that with the same build they’re pretty similar in size, as I mentioned before. You can’t complain that X got bigger if your comparison is with Y. Small trucks still exist, people don’t compare with them because it would prove their point moot.
If they don’t want larger classes of trucks to exist at all they should stop saying that “things were better back then” and should instead say “these things shouldn’t have been invented back in 1953!” but that’s not what they do becausr they created a fictional world in their minds where full size trucks weren’t full size trucks 30 years ago.
I somehow doubt you cannot understand the point, you just want to ignore it. Yes, people are saying trucks have gotten bigger but they clearly mean by that “larger, more dangerous vehicles now exist where I live and I don’t like it”
And you don’t understand the point that no they haven’t gotten that much bigger if you actually stop being dishonest and compare trucks of the same type instead of comparing two different trucks.
“I’m looking at my girlfriend sub compact hatchback and my SUV and damn, cars sure did get much bigger over the two years between their production!”
That’s the level of intelligence in this exchange.
You’re wrong. I don’t need to prove it. It doesn’t matter what anyone is comparing when you can easily look around and see more large trucks on the road, especially outside of America where large trucks were rare until recently. You’d have to be intentionally ignoring this fact to not notice, which you are.
My dad has a brand new reg cab f250 long bed (8ft) and it is quite bigger than his 88’ reg cab f150 long bed.
Also, people would absolutely by small trucks if they were available. The ford ranger was a top seller all the way until they discontinued it. The maverick struggles to stay on lots… there is clearly demand, but they dont have big profit margins like the mid size market has.
I thought their point was that they hate the large size, not that they were comparing apples to apples
Thing is barely anyone actually buys regular cabs so from the get go it’s a bad comparison as sure those small trucks existed, but there weren’t that many on the road. When you look at an extended cab mid size with 6’ bed truck today vs in 1995 you end up with a truck that is taller sure (the design makes it look worse than it actually is really), but isn’t actually that much larger or longer. The same thing is true for all trucks if your compare apples to apples.
If you then take cash tests into consideration well things don’t look good for those small trucks from back in the day… Body-on-frame isn’t the best for crumple zones and stuff like that, but it’s necessary to take actual load.
So yeah, people can complain that super small trucks don’t exist anymore but if they did they wouldn’t buy them anyway.
I don’t think you’re right about a lot of this unless you consider only america.
That’s where the complaints come from so yes North America is the market I’m talking about
Truck specs aren’t hard to find either, people don’t bother checking the actual measurements though and instead rely on bad comparisons like a Ford Ranger with a regular cab vs an F150 with a crew cab to prove their point
Not necessarily, those kinds of huge vehicles are showing up in Europe too and a lot of Europeans HATE them. And this article is about the Chinese not liking them…
And you’re missing the point entirely. The complaints are coming from people that are specifically ignoring the class of truck when comparing, as they do not want larger classes to even exist. They do not believe these enormous monstrosities should be a thing, so why in the world would they ever compare them to other trucks they consider monstrosities? “Hey guys see, out of these two things I hate, one is worse!” ???
Then compare a Ford Ranger (like on the picture) from back in the day to a current model year and you’ll soon realize that with the same build they’re pretty similar in size, as I mentioned before. You can’t complain that X got bigger if your comparison is with Y. Small trucks still exist, people don’t compare with them because it would prove their point moot.
If they don’t want larger classes of trucks to exist at all they should stop saying that “things were better back then” and should instead say “these things shouldn’t have been invented back in 1953!” but that’s not what they do becausr they created a fictional world in their minds where full size trucks weren’t full size trucks 30 years ago.
I somehow doubt you cannot understand the point, you just want to ignore it. Yes, people are saying trucks have gotten bigger but they clearly mean by that “larger, more dangerous vehicles now exist where I live and I don’t like it”
And you don’t understand the point that no they haven’t gotten that much bigger if you actually stop being dishonest and compare trucks of the same type instead of comparing two different trucks.
“I’m looking at my girlfriend sub compact hatchback and my SUV and damn, cars sure did get much bigger over the two years between their production!”
That’s the level of intelligence in this exchange.
You’re wrong. I don’t need to prove it. It doesn’t matter what anyone is comparing when you can easily look around and see more large trucks on the road, especially outside of America where large trucks were rare until recently. You’d have to be intentionally ignoring this fact to not notice, which you are.
My dad has a brand new reg cab f250 long bed (8ft) and it is quite bigger than his 88’ reg cab f150 long bed.
Also, people would absolutely by small trucks if they were available. The ford ranger was a top seller all the way until they discontinued it. The maverick struggles to stay on lots… there is clearly demand, but they dont have big profit margins like the mid size market has.
F250 vs F150, compare both for the same year and it will be the same story.
Are people being oblivious on purpose or something?