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      Of the ~90% of buildings destroyed, how many were destroyed by Israeli bombs VS Hamas bombs/rockets.

      The answer may shock you!

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          Yes, but many IDF members and the nationalistic government of Israel are terrorists as well.

          I still believe, (without any proof of course) that the government of Israel would have been able to not let 8th October happen and I believe that they moved the psytrance festival knowing what would happen.

          Only to have a reason to Bomb Gaza to the ground…

          🙃 but this is just a feeling!

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            Hamas are terrorists tho.? What’s contentious about this? So are Hezbollah and the irgc

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              You’re a terrorist.

              Now I can ignore all your human rights and also kill you with impunity.

              Is this a good system? Is this normal? The answer is no.

              Terrorist is just a word meant to shut off your thinking and empathy. Don’t fall for it.

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                Hamas is literally funded by Iran and their charter states they want death to Israel and the USA. They attacked Israel on Oct 7 2023 and created some serious terror that day. It’s not hyperbole this really happened, not sure anyone is trying to fool me.

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          The only response a genocider understands is violence. If you’re not a “terrorist” you’re either a victim or a collaborator.

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              So why do you have to get gay married in Cyprus instead of Israel?

              Your whitewashing hasbara for a genocidal apartheid state is going to work less and less as people see through the bullshit.

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                Ok fair enough I thought you Israel allowed same sex marriages domestically but it doesn’t. Either way they have a right to exist and defend itself and they’ve done more to battle international terrorism then any other nation has. They took out Hamas and it’s leaders, hezbollah, and the houthis are next. Iran is a genocidal state. Supporting Hamas is a very weird thing for people to do, I don’t get it. I definitely will never support a terrorist state that takes its support from Iran.

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            Hamas are terrorists though. They would kill all the Jews on the planet if they could. Go check out their charter

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              • They revised that charter.
              • Are you surprised they hate Jews and some might not have a nuanced opinion? There’s a fucking star of David on all the tanks and flags of the people killing their relatives and stealing their land.
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                Yeah their revisions are noted, hopefully it’s a more pragmatic but it doesn’t change the fact that if they were to seize power they’d establish another Islamist society that is regressive. How come all the other Arab nations aren’t doing anything to help Palestine? The leaders of Hamas were billionaires in qatar that let their people starve. How do you explain that?

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                  How come all the other Arab nations aren’t doing anything to help Palestine?

                  Most other Arab states in the region are backed by US puppets we’ve installed. The ones helping in any capacity are currently demonized (hezbollah, the Houthis, Iran)

                  The leaders of Hamas were billionaires in qatar that let their people starve.

                  If I have to explain to you how Israel controls the borders and flow of food into Gaza, and not some leadership…

                  My man, you are defending the modern day Nazis doing their final solution with all this bullshit. I hope to fuck you’re either being paid or an LLM. You’ve lost a deep part of your humanity. You should immediately introspect on how disgusting your behavior is.

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                    I’m simply trying to understand your perspective and have a discussion. If you’re gonna insult me then I’ll disengage from this topic. I’m not a Nazi and it’s easy to call anyone who has a different opinion as yours one, I don’t call you anything.

                    It’s clear it’s a complicated topic. I wouldn’t call all the neighboring states US puppets. They’re sovereign and have their own agendas and don’t want to be destabilized by the Palestinians which has happened historically. Also the houthis, Iran. And hezb are major destabilizers who have their own agendas and trust me they don’t align with humanities long term. I still think Hamas leadership failed significantly and prioritized weaponizing and attacking Israel over its own governance and taking care of its people, which is why Israel is now working to eradicate them. I think Hamas holds the people of Gaza hostage and its not fair to them. Oct 7 happened and Israel won’t just forget it either, they have a right to exist and defend themselves. It’s not a simple black and white thing with a clear hero and villain.

                    Either way, hope this clears up my position more.