Prisoners are legally allowed to be enslaved. Which is not great, even though I understand the motive. It’s been pretty well proven that punitive incarceration is bad for the individual and society. Remove punishment from the equation and slavery is not justifiable.
Most plantations continued to be farmland, some plantation houses still exist but wood maintenance in the south is a lot. Some of the old plantations overlap with prison farms. Most of the farm system has been shutdown as it isn’t economical.
Anyhow, yeah. The US has a huge incarcerated population, mostly black/Hispanic minorities, they are used for profit by enslavement.
Agreed, sorry, I couldn’t tell yesterday if you were pro-prison labor or didn’t have any exposure beyond personal regarding the oddity. I understand they can be kept for the purpose but wanted to give as much context for the shared aspects of the two issues i.e. plantations being converted and prisoners still legally being slaves in case you wanted to know more. Still glad to see productive discussions can still happen on the internet as I didn’t realize how many of the old plantation houses had gone the way of the dodo vis-a-vis maintenance issues, I appreciate the insight! I hope you have a good day!
No worries. I’ve become a real stickler for the facts when someone on the left is calling out the fascists. The shit they’re doing is plenty bad enough that there is no need to inflate or exaggerate anything. Lying about reality works for them but they’ve given us so much ammo we don’t have to fabricate anything.
We also can’t fall into the media hysteria like they did. The fear and anger is used to short circuit logic. We can’t let ourselves be manipulated like that.
IDK, I think it’s all our job to keep each other honest.
True as hell! I’ve been noticing the frenzied flock effect spawning misinfo here on the left and I appreciate you keeping me on form for it! Cause you’re right that I should have specified that I was critiquing the state of the law post-civil war, rather than anything the actual modern fascists are playing at.
True on the manipulation as well! Still, thank you again, and peace my friend!
Prisoners are legally allowed to be enslaved. Which is not great, even though I understand the motive. It’s been pretty well proven that punitive incarceration is bad for the individual and society. Remove punishment from the equation and slavery is not justifiable.
Most plantations continued to be farmland, some plantation houses still exist but wood maintenance in the south is a lot. Some of the old plantations overlap with prison farms. Most of the farm system has been shutdown as it isn’t economical.
Anyhow, yeah. The US has a huge incarcerated population, mostly black/Hispanic minorities, they are used for profit by enslavement.
Agreed, sorry, I couldn’t tell yesterday if you were pro-prison labor or didn’t have any exposure beyond personal regarding the oddity. I understand they can be kept for the purpose but wanted to give as much context for the shared aspects of the two issues i.e. plantations being converted and prisoners still legally being slaves in case you wanted to know more. Still glad to see productive discussions can still happen on the internet as I didn’t realize how many of the old plantation houses had gone the way of the dodo vis-a-vis maintenance issues, I appreciate the insight! I hope you have a good day!
No worries. I’ve become a real stickler for the facts when someone on the left is calling out the fascists. The shit they’re doing is plenty bad enough that there is no need to inflate or exaggerate anything. Lying about reality works for them but they’ve given us so much ammo we don’t have to fabricate anything.
We also can’t fall into the media hysteria like they did. The fear and anger is used to short circuit logic. We can’t let ourselves be manipulated like that.
IDK, I think it’s all our job to keep each other honest.
True as hell! I’ve been noticing the frenzied flock effect spawning misinfo here on the left and I appreciate you keeping me on form for it! Cause you’re right that I should have specified that I was critiquing the state of the law post-civil war, rather than anything the actual modern fascists are playing at.
True on the manipulation as well! Still, thank you again, and peace my friend!