After my generation dies you might be able to move forward in some of those fronts.
I will say, about the school times, that the biggest issue is the parent schedules, not the kids. Shifting times makes it much harder on parents, unless you also push tradwife-ish values: one parent must give up their career to care for the kids. It’s a sticky topic without an easy solution.
Edit the responses about the school times illustrate my point. I’m not saying there’s no solution; I’m saying there’s no easy solution that isn’t contentious.
I think old fossils had a huge impact on the outcome of the election, with a lot of backing by rich individuals and business interests that are unrelated to wealth.
Kamala was relatively young, but look at the rest of Congress and the leadership at the state level. The average age of all state leadership, including governors, and Senate & House speakers, is 58. The average age of all state governors alone is 68.
I used to believe the first line in your comment but the new generation is swinging further right than their parents (mostly male). So now I’m not so sure
You might be right; I don’t interact with a lot of Z. If so, maybe it’s a good thing we’re on the path to an ecological catastrophe and another, this time man-made, global extinction event.
What he was saying is that we can discover all the new things we want, but the people who have respected and established careers who don’t believe the new science tend to block/slow down it’s acceptance and further application until they die, then science advances…
I think that’s all of society, not just science though…
I will say, about the school times, that the biggest issue is the parent schedules, not the kids.
I call bullshit on this. Most school districts have high-schoolers starting at 7:30, middle-shoolers at 8, and elementary at 8:30, or something like that.
Yet, elementary aged kids are naturally up by 6 (if the parents are lucky; often earlier), and are also the biggest contingent that gets driven (instead of bussed) to school. A working parent can drive to their kid’s school and be on time for work without much issue early in the day, not so much at rush hour. And they are be up with their kids bright and early anyhow.
High-schoolers are the ones that need the most night sleep of the bunch, and with the latest sleep cycle. They are also the most independent. It’s not an issue to leave a high-schooler at home and go to work while they bus/drive/bike themselves to school later.
In short, both parents and kids schedules benefit from a reversal of the timetables, but we don’t do it for $REASONS.
outside of Elementary (kindergarden mostly) schools and suburbia there isn’t really a reason parents are needed for children to catch a bus/ walk a few miles to school.
You’re describing, like, 50% of the population of children in US. But ignoring that, there are other, valid reasons people don’t want to go off to work and leave their kids to catch a bus in a couple of hours. Even with buses, it’s not uncommon to see parents standing with their kids at the bus stop. In Minnesota in the winter, where it can sometimes reach -45°C in the winter, you don’t let your kid walk 4 blocks to stand for 20 minutes waiting for a bus that might be 20 minutes late because of snow. Frostbite of a very real risk in a lot of the world.
I’ve gone to a bus stop in -40° weather before (northern Alaska), frostbite isn’t that much of a concern if you have good enough clothing (children should not be sent out in fabrics that lose all insulating properties when wet spend the extra if they are going out in even -20°C regularly) handwarmers do exist for gloves if the child has learned how not to burn themselves (and when burns are preferable to freezing) and they get their gloves wet.
it would be nice if school buses had trackers so kids could know how delayed they currently are (or if the route is canceled because the bus drove off the road again).
When one of us works from home, we can do both. We’re productive enough from home that the extra time missed while walking them to school or waiting at the bus stop with them is more than made up for, especially when we save commute time and money.
That’s great for white collar workers. It’s a bit of an entitled perspective, though; there are many people in the US who aren’t privileged enough to be able to do their jobs through Zoom.
You can either adjust your sleep patterns to get the same amount of evening fun time, have fun in the morning, or organize and force the bourgeoisie to give you shorter workdays.
You have to cycle out old fucks to get progress.
After my generation dies you might be able to move forward in some of those fronts.
I will say, about the school times, that the biggest issue is the parent schedules, not the kids. Shifting times makes it much harder on parents, unless you also push tradwife-ish values: one parent must give up their career to care for the kids. It’s a sticky topic without an easy solution.
Edit the responses about the school times illustrate my point. I’m not saying there’s no solution; I’m saying there’s no easy solution that isn’t contentious.
Before this most recent US election, I had the same thought that the old fossils in power are the reasons nothing is getting better.
Yeah white men from Gen Z have shown the cycle will continue ad infinitum. It’s more about maintaining the racial hierarchy and patriarchy than age.
I think old fossils had a huge impact on the outcome of the election, with a lot of backing by rich individuals and business interests that are unrelated to wealth.
Kamala was relatively young, but look at the rest of Congress and the leadership at the state level. The average age of all state leadership, including governors, and Senate & House speakers, is 58. The average age of all state governors alone is 68.
I used to believe the first line in your comment but the new generation is swinging further right than their parents (mostly male). So now I’m not so sure
You might be right; I don’t interact with a lot of Z. If so, maybe it’s a good thing we’re on the path to an ecological catastrophe and another, this time man-made, global extinction event.
I mean I don’t either and probably if I didn’t I wouldn’t have the same findings, but that’s what the statistics say for the western world at least
Science advances one funeral at a time -Max Plank
What he was saying is that we can discover all the new things we want, but the people who have respected and established careers who don’t believe the new science tend to block/slow down it’s acceptance and further application until they die, then science advances…
I think that’s all of society, not just science though…
I call bullshit on this. Most school districts have high-schoolers starting at 7:30, middle-shoolers at 8, and elementary at 8:30, or something like that.
Yet, elementary aged kids are naturally up by 6 (if the parents are lucky; often earlier), and are also the biggest contingent that gets driven (instead of bussed) to school. A working parent can drive to their kid’s school and be on time for work without much issue early in the day, not so much at rush hour. And they are be up with their kids bright and early anyhow.
High-schoolers are the ones that need the most night sleep of the bunch, and with the latest sleep cycle. They are also the most independent. It’s not an issue to leave a high-schooler at home and go to work while they bus/drive/bike themselves to school later.
In short, both parents and kids schedules benefit from a reversal of the timetables, but we don’t do it for $REASONS.
outside of Elementary (kindergarden mostly) schools and suburbia there isn’t really a reason parents are needed for children to catch a bus/ walk a few miles to school.
You’re describing, like, 50% of the population of children in US. But ignoring that, there are other, valid reasons people don’t want to go off to work and leave their kids to catch a bus in a couple of hours. Even with buses, it’s not uncommon to see parents standing with their kids at the bus stop. In Minnesota in the winter, where it can sometimes reach -45°C in the winter, you don’t let your kid walk 4 blocks to stand for 20 minutes waiting for a bus that might be 20 minutes late because of snow. Frostbite of a very real risk in a lot of the world.
You’re thinking very locally.
I’ve gone to a bus stop in -40° weather before (northern Alaska), frostbite isn’t that much of a concern if you have good enough clothing (children should not be sent out in fabrics that lose all insulating properties when wet spend the extra if they are going out in even -20°C regularly) handwarmers do exist for gloves if the child has learned how not to burn themselves (and when burns are preferable to freezing) and they get their gloves wet.
it would be nice if school buses had trackers so kids could know how delayed they currently are (or if the route is canceled because the bus drove off the road again).
When one of us works from home, we can do both. We’re productive enough from home that the extra time missed while walking them to school or waiting at the bus stop with them is more than made up for, especially when we save commute time and money.
That’s great for white collar workers. It’s a bit of an entitled perspective, though; there are many people in the US who aren’t privileged enough to be able to do their jobs through Zoom.
There’s an easy solution: Push workdays later into the day so a 9-5 becomes an 11-7.
FTFY
work can get fucked if they think I’m giving up my evenings. We should be pushing for shorter workdays, too. Not just push them back.
I’ll do 4 days a week from 9-2, how about that?
when do i get to have fun?
2 Weeks every year. No, you don’t always get to choose which ones. Yes, they are also your sick days.
You can either adjust your sleep patterns to get the same amount of evening fun time, have fun in the morning, or organize and force the bourgeoisie to give you shorter workdays.