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xc2215x@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago

Zelensky says US silence over Russian attacks encourages Putin

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Zelensky says US silence over Russian attacks encourages Putin

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Zelensky says 'US silence' over Russian attacks 'encourages Putin'
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At least 12 people were reported killed in Ukraine, with 13 regions hit by Russian air strikes.
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    I stand with Ukraine and I am anti-war. 🇺🇦😁

    (Oh my lord, what chaos did I start?)

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      Which Ukrainians do you stand with?

      • The oligarchs running the state?
      • The Banderite fascists?
      • The eastern & southern Ukrainians, who, after the Maidan coup, declared independence from an unelected government, and were subsequently terrorized by the Banderites for nearly a decade, with tacit and overt support from the Ukrainian and US governments?
      • The western Ukrainians who want the war to end?
      • The men being kidnapped off the streets and pushed to the front lines against their will?

      .
      Previously. Previously.

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        The people who fight to protect their country. I don’t like the government. Can someone explain why I am getting downvoted though?

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          The regime in Ukraine is literally snatching people off the street against their will to throw them into fighting. Ukraine has become an open air prison from which people can’t escape. Elections have been cancelled. All opposition parties have been banned. All independent media has been shut down. It’s literally a fascist dictatorship. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html

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            Not defending Ukraine here but doesn’t Russia do the same thing? They don’t have fair elections, opposition is almost no n existent and independent media is limited (which Georgians refers to as the Russian law). They conscript anyone suitable enough into the military. I don’t see how Russia is any different. Putin literally killed one of his oppositions.

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              No, Russia doesn’t do the same thing. Putin has not jailed opposition parties, and his party has genuine public support as even as mainstream western media acknowledges.

              They now tend to see the weakness of the Russian anti-war movement as a mark of complicity among the Russian public, and they are dismayed by Putin’s approval rating: independent pollsters have measured it at over 80% support more than two years into the invasion. Even President Volodymyr Zelensky and his team have all but given up on their hopes of a popular backlash in Russia against the war.

              The approval rating Putin and his party have is also far higher than seen in any western democracy at this point. Nor is there blatant violation of the democratic process as was recently seen in Romania where an election was cancelled when the wrong. candidate looked like he was winning. If Russia doesn’t have fair elections, then neither does the west.

              Russia allows access to most western media and has a more open media environment than Europe at this point where all Russian media is banned.

              Putin literally killed one of his oppositions.

              If you’re referring to Navalny, he never had more than 3% support in Russia. It’s also no surprise why. Meanwhile, even Ukrainians said that he died of natural causes. The actual opposition in Russia is KPRF that has around 30% support.

              They conscript anyone suitable enough into the military.

              Conscription has been standard in Russia since the days of USSR. Conscripts receive basic training, however they are not sent to fight in the war. This is done through volunteers signing up which is happening at a rate of around 30,000 a month.

              If you don’t see how Russia is different then you’ve spent no time actually learning about Russia.

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          Can someone explain why I am getting downvoted though?

          Because not everyone agrees with you, as I explained above and in my previouslies. If you’d like to know more, see also previously here.

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          wait, you’re seeking validation from an online web forum?

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        That’s some crazy Russian propaganda you’re spouting there, “comrad”.

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          If the “propaganda” is verifiably correct then calling it propaganda does fuck all for your position

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            How can the Sputnik be in orbit when that’s literally Russian propaganda, tankies???

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            Not verifiable. Just lies.

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              If the US supports a regime they are always evil, no exceptions

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                That’s pure bullshit lies.

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                  Name one benevolent regime the US has supported.

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                    Name one benevolent regime

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                  Congrats, you’ve just summed up every single comment of yours in this thread.

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                  Lol k, stay stupid patriot

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          yeah much better they fight a guaranteed loss on the side of US and EU empires of white supremacy

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            More Russian propaganda.

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              Is Russian propaganda in the room with you right now?

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                Removed by mod

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                  the irony of a fascist supporter calling other people nazis

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                    You’re the one support Putin, a undeniable fascist dictator.

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              “Everything that doesn’t conform to my bias is Russian Propaganda!”

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                Just more lies.

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                My bias is against the country trying to grab more land.

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                  You refuse the right to selfdetermination only to people wanting independence from US puppets or universally?

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                    Do you refuse the right to self determination only for the people that want to integrate into Russia, or universally?

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                  Yeah, the US

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