• wanderwisley@lemm.ee
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    4 hours ago

    After you are baptized do you get enrolled in the army and send to the frontline in Ukraine?

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    Skinny jeans, crossing your legs, using an iron, shaping your eyebrows, and even eating soup are among the things he derides as too feminine.

    DUDE!
    If your super-manly-manliness is fucking threatened by… eating soup… you’re not manly at all, you’re just fucking pathetic, weak-sauce and insecure.
    It’s like trying to be “cool” by telling people how cool you are, you defacto are not.

    My grandad ate soup every fucking meal after he came back from slapping nazis halfway accross the world, running uphill into fucking machine guns and he was more manlier than these shit-stain-producing-troglodytes.

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      Ya wtf is wrong with soup. I make some bomb ass bacon and potato chowder. I have a fajita steak soup that will light your asshole on fire. And it’s fucking blasphemous downright unamerican to hate chili.

      As a Nebraskan chili and cinnamon rolls are a staple of our winter diet.

      I take more pride in preparing soup than i do grilling. Grilling an idiot can do. Soup takes skill

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      13 hours ago

      It’s all about the fragile man feeling like people will think they are less of a man for arbitrary reasons.

      The real question should be, “how can I gain more control over my life?”

      … but that requires actual work. It’s easier to just not eat soup and to wear baggy pants.

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      12 hours ago

      Maybe not winning a war since your grandad kicked ass WWII, even though trillions of dollars were spent, thousands of US lives lost and millions mamed physically and mentally, has hurt their fragile egos.

      I believe this shift to fundamentalist religious ideology in the US is overcompensation for what they saw in the Middle East where those folks stuck to and depended on their culture and beliefs to survive and when the soldiers returned they just saw fat fucking, lazy relatives complaining about everything.

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    12 hours ago

    All religions are only about control. This one is no different, just that the control likely comes from somewhere in Russia, but it’s control nonetheless

    It’s okay, there is no god, it’s okay.

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    11 hours ago

    Sounds like how to make men weaker. Wow. This is sad. Just a list of unnecessary things to be a snowflake about.

    Note: to flush ouf these proud boys is to offer soup and watch them melt into a puddle of pathetic loserishness

  • nkat2112@sh.itjust.works
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    15 hours ago

    On the certain road down to incel-ism.

    Actual title as I see it on the article:

    Young US men are joining Russian churches promising ‘absurd levels of manliness’

    Some notable initial content:

    Skinny jeans, crossing your legs, using an iron, shaping your eyebrows, and even eating soup are among the things he derides as too feminine.

    There are other videos of Father Moses McPherson - a powerfully-built father of five - weightlifting to the sound of heavy metal.

    He was raised a Protestant and once worked as a roofer, but now serves as a priest in the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia (ROCOR) in Georgetown, Texas, an offshoot of the mother church in Moscow.

    The disservice this manly man is doing to society is regrettable, because invariably, women are going to get hurt as a result of this traditionalist backwards thinking.

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    13 hours ago

    There’s a huge shift in male role models over the past few decades, and it always felt to me like the people who could never fit into the old militaristic, athletic “conqueror”-style mould saying “we’ll invent our own definition of masculinity” than a direct, fully-bought-in progression.

    This will leave people behind-- the ones who can’t find new “appropriate” idols or aren’t impressed by their achievements. The Linus Torvalds version of conquering the world is hardly the Genghis Khan version.

    Maybe we need to find a way to broaden the modern pantheon to figures that can resonate with a traditional audience.

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      The Linus Torvalds version of conquering the world is hardly the Genghis Khan version.

      An interesting point to make.

      Richard Stallman is definitely my biggest inspiration. I never considered it as a masculine or feminine thing, just an example of someone who is correct while most of his peers are wrong.

      The pen really is mightier than the sword, and it has been for awhile. That’s why the ruling class doesn’t want us to have any of our own ideas.

      Some of these guys didn’t get the memo. They probably never had a good male role model to guide them on how to adapt to modern society.

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      They don’t want that though, they are turning to fucking news like Steven Miller and Andrew Tate. Because they ‘look like them’ and those guys are total assholes with perceived power.

      This is one are where progressives and liberals have completely failed. There are zero male role models in progressive/leftist politics that aren’t women that are easily identifiable.

      And when you bring this up in those circles you get talked down to.

      I totally see why most average men want to be republicans. That party allows you to be a man (a toxic version of a man, but none the less a man).

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        The manliest thing to do is complain about how you’re not allowed to be a man because the left doesn’t have someone as manly as Steven Miller (??) for you to emulate.

        Manliness isn’t a course or a team and you don’t need other people to approve you being it. Have beliefs, stand up for people who are weaker than you, and build things to make the world a better place.

        Also, the largest leftist streamer (hasanabi) plays videogames, like anime boobs, and clearly works out constantly. Bill Burr is constantly going viral for telling assholes to shut the fuck up with a big cigar in his hand. And Tim Walz’s whole political schtick is being a solid, caring, coach figure. There are plenty a representations of stereotypically “manly” figures on the left. The type that’s not represented there is the toxic dudes complaining about how every problem in their life is the fault of women denying them their rightful place as the masters of society.

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          No you mistake my point I’m saying that ‘the left’ doesn’t have as many figurehead people online in those spaces to call out the people like Tate and Miller.

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    Ya know Im quite traditionally masculine by my kins standards and frankly speaking I find these “I’m super masculine take me seriously” types to be rather amusing if not pathetic. Mind you my kin and I come from a cousin stock of Old John Brown meaning that traditional masculine activities consists of scalping slavers, burning Mormons alive, and making Southern Trash know their place.

    How modernity has stripped many of us of our traditions, I must thank these weaklings for volunteering to help bring my ancestors traditions back. After all it won’t be the same, but these pissants will make fine targets regardless since they are close enough.

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    None of these bozos are going to actually do the fasts- which are traditionally essentially vegan, no meat (other than invertebrates), no eggs, dairy and only sometimes you get seed/olive oils.

    I’m actually the highest level of orthodox, vegan 24/7 💅 meanwhile these guys are just treat hogs chasing the latest fad.

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      11 hours ago

      I’ve got a friend who became Orthodox a few years before Russia even invaded Crimea in 2014, he does the fasts. They are hardcore. He’s a good guy and to see how politicized Orthodoxy has become the past decade or so makes me sad, he just believes it’s the correct church, as opposed to Catholicism or Protestants. I can’t say I agree with him but at least some of those Orthodox people are cool. Not all though, I’ve met some who were real tools, and any flavor of Christianity leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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      11 hours ago

      You’d be surprised how much meat one can eat while observing the fasting discipline.

      In Greece, for example, some stores explicitly label shrimp, octopus, squid, etc. as “fasting” foods.