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We never got rid of slavery, we just made them responsible for their own food and housing.
That’s quite disrespectful to compare what we have today to actual slavery.
That exact response prevents us from properly evaluating our situation.
Wage slavery is slavery
yes, not every slavery, even historically, has been chattel slavery
It’s slavery with gaming qualities and objectives, like kids at a summer camp. Maybe if I get a few more tokens, I can buy a tshirt.
Hmmmm. Sounds like something UBI could solve.
Except there are a lot of people who believe that the homelessness and suffering is natural, correct, and deserved.
Maybe in America, but in most other places homelessness isn’t demonised nearly as much (also America is probably the only place that will make you homeless if you get seriously ill).
I think somewhere in the Nordic states, they’ve trialled UBI in an area and I think with success.
Edit: So the results are a mixed bag, as you would expect, but generally people were much happier with UBI.
Right up until the point it happens to them.
Those people:
Hey Bukowski said great stuff when he wasn’t kicking his underage girlfriend on camera.
Innovation I tell you, gawd damn innovation… Day late, dollor short. Too much and never enough. Can you smell the stench of toxic positive optimism, the self satisfaction of those that don’t think they will be left with the bag. You know the “low level winner” of inconsequential gains… One extra bowl of slop. The vain and envious… The non factual lacking in the mathematical. Oh what grand ol world. Capitalism is as natural as a ice pick rammed up my arse.
Rise and grind, baby.
Where’s the money, Bukowski?
*To buy goods mass produced by a person working in far worse conditions.
This then feeds into the CPI, which now requires higher priced goods via inflation targeting, and suddenly housing is unaffordable and theres a reverse baby boom.
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That’s sad reality
Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.
More than one thing can be bad.
yeah, but like, nuclear war and a dropping your icecream on the floor are bad.
Complaining about having a job and a stable life, is kinda… xd IMO.
Hey, why cant we be bombed regularly too, huh? Won’t some country spice up my life american style? SAVE ME FROM MY BORING FIRST WORLD LIFE.
I guess, that the most reasonable argument for voting trump i have heard yet, living in a functioning democracy is too boring and opposing oppression is funnier, for that you need a tyrant to overthrow, so you put one into power to see what happens lol. /j.
Only problem is I’m running out of popcorn :(
You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us.Companies and landlords don’t have to exist though
Even if we completely ignore the overhead involved in buying and selling property, moving is expensive, stressful and completely upends your life. Expecting new parents to move every time they need more room, or even worse, forcing grieving parents to move because no longer “need” the space is ridiculous. If we aren’t complete monsters about people only having exactly the amount of space that they need at any given moment means that there will have to be a number of people with surplus space at any given moment. And at any given moment there will also be a number of people who need a place to stay, but may not plan on staying in that one place long enough to make it worth “buying” somewhere to live. So, I don’t see how you can stop people from letting others who need a place to live from living with them. So landlords have always existed and always will.
On the same note there’s no way to stop 2 people with similar goals from helping each other, so companies will also exist whether you want them to or not.
fine? quite true.
This isn’t a fucking meme. It’s a great quote, but doesn’t belong here.
Language changes. “Meme” used to mean an idea that has taken hold and become part of culture. Now it’s any composition of images and/or words posted online.
Yeah, maybe. It certainly is a tragedy. I miss it when memes were just dumb shit which a person with an inane, absurdist sense of humor could appreciate. Politics are everywhere now.
poltiical memes are the original memes lol
Almost no modern “memes” are actually memes anymore.
What do you think a meme is?
How isn’t it a meme? It’s an idea that’s been repeated and passed through many people, surviving in its distilled but still exploitable form.
So, I looked up the term on Wikipedia. It sais: “An Internet meme, or meme ([/miːm/], [MEEM]), is a cultural item (such as an idea, behavior, or style) that spreads across the Internet, primarily through social media platforms]. Internet memes manifest in a variety of formats, including images, videos, GIFs], and other viral content. Key characteristics of memes include their tendency to be parodied, their use of intertextuality, their viral dissemination, and their continual evolution. The term meme was originally introduced by Richard Dawkins in 1972 to describe the concept of cultural transmission.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_meme
I’ll let you be the judge of whether this fits that definition or not. (And whether it’s worth your time arguing about something being a meme).
mods, MOOODS! take’m otta here 🏃♂️🚨👮♀️👮♂️
Sometimes people will only see things through certain avenues. In this case, a not-so-accurate category.
“I know, but I wanted people to see it”
This type of behaviour is bannable on platforms with functioning moderation
Thank god this place doesnt have functioning “moderation”. The fediverse is literally the last place on earth where billinaires dont tell you what to do.
Moderation is not bad in itself, it is curating of content to keep topics on track and quality above a certain limit. It has absolutely nothing to do with billionaires or their desires. A lot of subs on different instances are really shitty because of lacking moderation. Leaving subs completely unmoderated is a recipe for a disaster shitpile.
The good old forum days also had a lot of moderation to keep them from turning to shit.
Nuance. As you can see in my comment, i wrote it “moderation” which is supposed to mean the form of moderation that antisocial media is up to.
Nothing in the other persons comment suggests that type of moderation though
That one is called context. The commenter rants about in their eyes unfitting content would be removed if this place had functioning moderation. This is figuratively the exact opposite what lemmy is about.
(User was born after the last BB forum was shut down)
Guess what? This user has been avidly online since the BBS days and really … posters such as yourself were very annoying back then, too.
For a time I lived awakened by the birds and a purring kittty and the golden dawn.
I would evacuate and then make a pot of French press and sit and and enjoy a cigarette and caffeine while my kitty and I watched hummingbirds flit among them flowers.
I would sleep when my work was done and I was tired. I’d bathe before bed and curl up with the kitty purring at my feet.
Minutes are a human construct. Rebel against them.
Cool. How’d you monetize this, exactly, and how well did it pay?
Magic and pushing buttons in the right order.
The order is the fiddly bit
Sounds absolutely lovely, alas unsustainable in the current world and at least my current region.
Yes, people are the worst.
I have never been more motivated by the complete absence of a social safety-net, than each day I have spent unemployed.
As Americans, perhaps we behave this way largely to do normalization and indoctrination. And maybe some are tacitly aware of the fragility of this arrangement. But for those of us that have stared into the financial and classist chasm that sits beneath us all, it vastly exceeds any unease you might feel from not keeping up with your peers.
My state has stripped unemployment down to 12 weeks, after that went by after my layoff at Christmas, I got so desperate and depressed and a little bit crazy. As the day is ticked closer to my first missed mortgage payment and car payment, And the thought of homelessness for me and my animals became a sobering reality, I started taking every interview I could possibly find, no preparation, just winging it until something worked.
During that whole process, I saw what the endgame is, we are slaves, but there is no slave master anymore, we do that part ourselves to avoid dying on the street.
So I am very motivated to start my own niche company and get the fuck away from this whole system at this point. Especially since I will have to work until I die, 401ks have all been cashed out during crises.
My endgame is to pull the rug on the whole thing by offering, in a capricious way, something better
My condolences on both the awful realizations and the exhaustion of your retirement funds. I feel you on the self-incorporation front. That one keeps coming up for me, especially when times are tough.
Yeah turns out usa didn’t reinvent the wheel super good or something. You have all been scammed under the pretense of liberty.
Now go fix it.
6:30 am? In my city, the streets are already packed with working class people at 6:00 am.
Starting work at 6am? Luxury! In my day we started our day’s work the day before, and didn’t finish until two days after!
Sarcasm is kind of offensive in some situations. My point is there are people who start their working hours at 7:00 am, but there are cities so big and chaotic that is not rare people need over an hour to get to their workplaces. Millions of people can’t wake up as late as 6:30 am. It’s a privilege.
Ah, thank you. Wasn’t quite clear it was a quote from the Month Pythons, no less.
In my burb, workers have to race to the bus, in order to get their bikes into one of two racks.
Easy. Money. Pay me well and I’ll do it.
Best we can do is $3.50.
What do you MEAN no??? People just don’t want to work these days!!!
We need to do something about that. We’ve built this neat “factility” here where you will “live” so you stop breaking the law. Yes, you will have to work there and your windows have bars. What do you mean forced labour? You broke the law by not working!
