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    20 hours ago

    You apparently being sheltered isn’t a good argument.

    Complete missed where I had traveled across the US as a kid.

    I don’t think I was a sheltered kid. 7 of us vs one parent at a time didn’t leave a lot of bandwidth for them to be helicopter parents. Wasn’t a latchkey kid either. I’d walk myself and my brothers home from school most days. During the summer we’d walk down to the pool on our own, or sometimes take a younger sibling with us if they wanted to go (surprise surprise, no leashes at the pool) or we’d walk across town and grab snacks from the grocery store (still no leashes).

    Leashing kids is not normal, if you don’t believe me, try to find video of a place where more than 3 are leashed in the background of a news report or puff piece.

    The vast majority of kids aren’t leashed. It’s not normal.

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      Traveling across the US doesn’t mean you went to places where small kids congregated. It’s also more common NOW than it was back then.

      Why are you acting like people are leashing 8-10 year olds. You use them when the kids are 1-3 so they’re not stuck in their stroller the whole time you’re at some public place (which is probably what your parents did with you). It really sounds like you think parents are tying their kid to a post, instead of having a connection on their wrist. Your arguments come across as if you have zero idea what we’re talking about and only had a visceral overreaction to just hearing this concept for the first time.

      The kids often enjoy it, too. They think they’re the ones leading their parents.

      try to find video of a place where more than 3 are leashed in the background of a news report or puff piece.

      What a stupidly arbitrary and specific demand for proof.

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        Why are you acting like people are leashing 8-10 year olds.

        The kids I saw leashed were primarily in the 6-12 range if I had to guess. They absolutely were not 2-4.

        What a stupidly arbitrary and specific demand for proof.

        I can find you a video of a news report with kids in the background where none of them are leashed in just a few minutes, mainly because the vast majority of children are not put on leashes.

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          I do not believe for a second that a 12 year old would sit there allowing themselves to be leashed. Some 12 year olds are basically full grown adult sized people.

          I’m talking about toddlers. I’ve said that multiple times. You keep imagining dumb shit that is not happening. So you’re right, the vast majority of non toddler children are not on leashes. Congrats. What a fucking stupid conversation this was. No one said otherwise. You invented a thing that wasn’t happening to be angry at.

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            You can find one video of people not doing one specific things, really easily. I’m not sure what you thought this proved.

            I was always, and still, only talking about toddlers. Are there 3+ toddlers in a crowded public space in that video?

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              Sure. 3 plus kids, in crowded spaces next to a STREET! It’s amazing they all survived.

              On a related note, I didn’t have to do anything special to find you that video. I just looked for “New Community Festival” and picked the first one that wasn’t about a mass shooting. You know why it was so easy to find? Because leashing kids is not normal.

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                I specified TODDLER. You keep only saying kid. There’s a difference. I know you know that. But your are determined to have a completely different conversation than I am here

                I didn’t say you had to do anything special. That’s my point. It’s really fucking easy to find videos that are completely off topic from the conversation.

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                  20 hours ago

                  Guess what?

                  I specified TODDLER.

                  Leashing toddlers is wrong too…And reality doesn’t give a fuck about what you specified. You don’t mean shit to nearly everyone on the planet.

                  Yes it is really easy to find video and media of children not on leashes, which conversely shows how hard it is to find videos of children (or even toddlers, why the fuck not) who are on leashes, because it’s not fucking common.

                  If you said “Amputees are common” and I said “If they’re so common, show me some media with a bunch of amputees in it” and you have to fucking dig for it, while I can pick a piece of media at random and expect it not to have any amputees in it, it’s probably a really good fucking indicator that amputees aren’t fucking common, right?!

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                    19 hours ago

                    Maybe your parents should have leashed you, maybe you’d wander off the fucking topic less.

                    HOW is giving your toddler exercise when they’d otherwise be out in the stroller wrong? They’re not embarrassed by it. They often enjoy it. Where is the harm? This is you PROJECTING your own stupidly conceived feelings into someone else who isn’t feeling those things.

                    You still can’t grasp your video thing isn’t indictive of literally anything. You looking at videos of shit where the topic wouldn’t be occurring will obviously show that thing not occurring. How fucking dense are you that you think this proves Jack shit? Common also doesn’t mean literally everyone is doing it.