How? WSL is absolutely awful for adoption. Theres no GUI, it bearly runs GUI apps, and you have to manually configure it. If my first experience with Linux was WSL I would never touch Linux again.
When working with Linux I want a CLI and GUI for some applications. No need. To be fair, I primarily use windows because VS22 with resharpen is pretty nice (with graphical debugging).
Yes but thats sorta the point, WSL users like you are Windows users. Not really Linux users, you run a glorified VM. It makes perfect sense for devs to get annoyed when WSL users complain about WSL bugs to package or distro maintainers. Theres nothing wrong with that obviously but its still misleading whenever a WSL user calls themselves a Linux user (not to say that applies to you)
And i always thought Real™️ linux users dont need a desktop manager? No wait they need arch with a tiled window manager because it looks cool but actually dont do annything besides configure their install.
Ok but what is your job then? I do software development and in no way would it make my work faster if i can type 2 more words a minute because i dont type that much. Most time is used to read sourcecode, chassing references through the codebase and reading api references in the browser. If i have to do more hardware related stuff i would never want to use a keyboard to scroll through datasheets.
Ahh ok yea i also do some terminal shenanigans most in gdb to fix all the segfaults i make, git stuff and reading tons of compiler and cmake errors. Most time is spent thinking about what i broke and how, instead of typing.
I am a electrical engineering student in my last semester but i have been working at my position since starting uni. So my work is more low level stuff wirh c/c++, embedded linux and some pcb layouting. I dont think that i would ever use vim, sublime or vscode/vscodium is the sweet spot for me.
Electrical engineering and embedded programming is quite far from what I do, so that makes sense! One of my friends graduated EE 10+ years ago and his pace is much slower, but he’s much smarter than me lol.
I can get up to a pretty high apm when I get in the zone, and admittedly I enjoy the feeling of being a hackerman zipping through terminals…
You can but it’s a very cursed way to do it. You need to run an X server on windows and set up x11 forwarding. I remember trying it ages ago and it sort of worked. I ended up giving up on it as I ended up just using a live boot.
I knew, as soon as they installed that damned GUI, that we’d have Windowers coming around with their “Windows key this and WSL that”. I’m going to have to move to BSD at this rate, I hear they have a more permissive license. I was telling my friend Margaret just the other day that I was meaning to move to BSD. That and that I wanted to get a shrubbery, for the garden.
This sort of elitism really hurts adoption
How? WSL is absolutely awful for adoption. Theres no GUI, it bearly runs GUI apps, and you have to manually configure it. If my first experience with Linux was WSL I would never touch Linux again.
When working with Linux I want a CLI and GUI for some applications. No need. To be fair, I primarily use windows because VS22 with resharpen is pretty nice (with graphical debugging).
Yes but thats sorta the point, WSL users like you are Windows users. Not really Linux users, you run a glorified VM. It makes perfect sense for devs to get annoyed when WSL users complain about WSL bugs to package or distro maintainers. Theres nothing wrong with that obviously but its still misleading whenever a WSL user calls themselves a Linux user (not to say that applies to you)
And i always thought Real™️ linux users dont need a desktop manager? No wait they need arch with a tiled window manager because it looks cool but actually dont do annything besides configure their install.
Real™ Linux users stare at their desktop until they reboot into Windows so they can acturally run software :3
If you actually do work, getting used to a tiling WM is like a drug. I can’t live without it now.
(that’s a lie, I do at work cus I’m forced to use Windows, so WSL with tmux is an acceptable alternative)
Ok but what is your job then? I do software development and in no way would it make my work faster if i can type 2 more words a minute because i dont type that much. Most time is used to read sourcecode, chassing references through the codebase and reading api references in the browser. If i have to do more hardware related stuff i would never want to use a keyboard to scroll through datasheets.
Software development too, but also lots of sysadmin-like stuff so I spend lots of time in terminals/SSH. And I’m a vim fanatic.
Of course I also spend a lot of time in the browser, but also man pages/local docs in a pager
Ahh ok yea i also do some terminal shenanigans most in gdb to fix all the segfaults i make, git stuff and reading tons of compiler and cmake errors. Most time is spent thinking about what i broke and how, instead of typing.
I am a electrical engineering student in my last semester but i have been working at my position since starting uni. So my work is more low level stuff wirh c/c++, embedded linux and some pcb layouting. I dont think that i would ever use vim, sublime or vscode/vscodium is the sweet spot for me.
Electrical engineering and embedded programming is quite far from what I do, so that makes sense! One of my friends graduated EE 10+ years ago and his pace is much slower, but he’s much smarter than me lol.
I can get up to a pretty high apm when I get in the zone, and admittedly I enjoy the feeling of being a hackerman zipping through terminals…
It has proper gui support now?
Let me clearify, you cant run full desktop environments on it. You cant even run a window manager like Sway on it.
You can but it’s a very cursed way to do it. You need to run an X server on windows and set up x11 forwarding. I remember trying it ages ago and it sort of worked. I ended up giving up on it as I ended up just using a live boot.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61110603/how-to-set-up-working-x11-forwarding-on-wsl2
That seems like its not stable and the software is likely to either be undermaintained or unmaintained
Vcxsrv has been around for ages. It’s also more documented now. I tried it right when wsl2 released.
The only way it could really do it would be for the Windows shell to get out of the way, which it won’t.
You can with effort have some sort of abomination where you get inflicted with both UI designs at the same time…
Yes
You can sudo apt install firefox. And you will get a firefox (wsl ) icon on your start menu
This pleb thinks we should listen to them. Frankly, this neighborhood is done for!
I knew, as soon as they installed that damned GUI, that we’d have Windowers coming around with their “Windows key this and WSL that”. I’m going to have to move to BSD at this rate, I hear they have a more permissive license. I was telling my friend Margaret just the other day that I was meaning to move to BSD. That and that I wanted to get a shrubbery, for the garden.
A shrubbery‽
The same
On another side it stops people from switching cause as better it’s working less reason to switch