• superkret@feddit.org
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    12 days ago

    We should stop calling it “the west” then.
    It’s always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
    We should think of a new name…

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        12 days ago

        The “other side” is imperial too. That doesn’t make sense.

        The entire thing is just imperial powers battling and using everything in-between as pawns.

        Do you think Russia, China and Saudi Arabia aren’t doing the same thing to places?

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          11 days ago

          No need for whataboutism when discussing the imperial tendencies and supremacy in the west.

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            11 days ago

            not a whataboutism

            imagine if we named the West, the guys with guns. The other guys have guns too so it’s not a great name. That’s not a whataboutism lol

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        12 days ago

        No country in South America, Africa or Asia is part of “the west”.
        I admit I forgot Canada and New Zealand, as is tradition.

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          12 days ago

          Japan and South Korea aren’t in Asia? I’d certainly count them as “western”, especially Japan. if I’m feeling especially generous I might provisionally include Brazil too.

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            12 days ago

            I wouldn’t. You’re mistaking countries under the thumb of the West as being the West

            WWII and Korea are how those countries came about their position today. I don’t think they’re entirely against their position but they don’t have a seat at the table like the others do

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              12 days ago

              Japan’s the third largest economy in the world and they aligned themselves with the West in the Meiji restoration. they sought imperial conquest of their neighbors in the 1900s. what more do you want for them to be the West

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                11 days ago

                Not willingly. This is a core tenet of meoliberalism.

                Japan has blurred porn because of the US. Any laws Japan has made that US citizens have to follow? Nope. How many Japanese military bases exist in America. 0.

                They do not have an equal seat at the table.