You guys are all fools. This is a good thing! The Art of the deal! This is just from Thursday:
“We’re seeing as a result that ports here in the US, the traffic has really slowed and now thousands of dockworkers and truck drivers are worried about their jobs.”
Reporter
“That means we lose less money … when you say it slowed down, that’s a good thing, not a bad thing.”
“We lost money because americans spent it on Chinese made goods and not american goods.”
For one, a lot of these goods are sold by US companies. Those jobs, that revenue on leases and equipment, are spent in the US. For two, we don’t make most of this shit here to buy at all, and in some cases like “exotic” foodstuff like coffee, we cannot make it here. Americans can literally not spend our money on something American made even if we wanted to. For three, the factories and supply chain to make the things will take decades to stand up, the same way they took decades to stand up in China, where US corporate greed for offshoring and a local authoritarian government that plans for decades, generally at the short term detriment of its people, worked together to build it.
Putting shitty tariffs on the world wont shift the above. It has to be followed with ungodly, focused government spending for a generation. Everyone knows this shit is over in a small handful of years, not 20, so no corporation is going to make the huge investment in the US infrastructure that we would need.
So you are saying container ships do not cause massive pollution?
EDIT: For the argumentative kids in the class who still don’t get it: It doesn’t matter if container ships are the best way or the worst way. That’s irrelevant to my comment. If an element of pollution is removed, then pollution goes down.
The Orange Turd is bringing empty shelves to America. Great job MAGAts.
You guys are all fools. This is a good thing! The Art of the deal! This is just from Thursday:
His rational is powerfully idiotic.
For one, a lot of these goods are sold by US companies. Those jobs, that revenue on leases and equipment, are spent in the US. For two, we don’t make most of this shit here to buy at all, and in some cases like “exotic” foodstuff like coffee, we cannot make it here. Americans can literally not spend our money on something American made even if we wanted to. For three, the factories and supply chain to make the things will take decades to stand up, the same way they took decades to stand up in China, where US corporate greed for offshoring and a local authoritarian government that plans for decades, generally at the short term detriment of its people, worked together to build it.
Putting shitty tariffs on the world wont shift the above. It has to be followed with ungodly, focused government spending for a generation. Everyone knows this shit is over in a small handful of years, not 20, so no corporation is going to make the huge investment in the US infrastructure that we would need.
At least he has reduced the enormous amounts of pollution created by all those ships normally?
I don’t know, I’m just trying to find a sliver of hope somewhere.
Container ships are the most economical and least polluting way to ship goods per ton
They still are one of the major contributers to climate change and global pollution. Less shipping is always better.
I thought trains were the most efficient way to ship goods, though I’ll concede that trains are notoriously bad at crossing oceans.
Wikipedia entry claims shipping is the most environmentally efficient transport method.
Don’t worry, Trump’s got you covered…
Especially if wind power becomes a viable alternative (again?)
https://cinea.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/new-wind-powered-cargo-ship-sets-sail-2023-08-22_en
Doesn’t mean it’s still okay for the environment. Those ships need to be transitioned to nuclear.
So you are saying container ships do not cause massive pollution?
EDIT: For the argumentative kids in the class who still don’t get it: It doesn’t matter if container ships are the best way or the worst way. That’s irrelevant to my comment. If an element of pollution is removed, then pollution goes down.
No, they are saying that any other way to transport those goods would cause more pollution.
So you are saying that by NOT transporting these goods whatsoever, the environment is harmed more?
You need to learn how to read.