Tesla has confirmed it has given up on plans to make a Cybertruck range extender to achieve the range it originally promised on the electric pickup truck.
It started refunding deposits for the $16,000 extra battery pack.
When Tesla unveiled the production version of the Cybertruck in late 2023, two main disappointments were the price and the range.
The tri-motor version, the most popular in reservation tallies before production, was supposed to have over 500 miles of range and start at $70,000.
Tesla now sells the tri-motor Cybertruck for $100,000 and only has a range of 320 miles.
The dual-motor Cybertruck was supposed to cost $50,000 and have over 300 miles of range. In reality, it starts at $80,000 and has 325 miles of range.
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It will literally never make it onto the streets in the US.
Hey now, the US has multiple hydrogen stations, assuming you live in a certain area of California.
Well, they can ditch the Hydrogen part, that technology is done
I’m not a car guy so I don’t understand why your view seems to be so popular on the Internet (at least in the Anglosphere).
Is Toyota doing the Sony thing where they double down on a certain — perhaps less practical — format in hopes that it will make them money if/when it gets adopted as an industry standard?
It’s the nature of hydrogen as a fuel. It’s a gas, and has a very low power density. You can either compress it, but that requires the car carry a robust (and heavy) pressure vessel around. Plus, all the delivery infrastructure has to handle hydrogen at those crazy pressures, or you need to carry the compressor in the vehicle, which again is heavy, and slow. The other possiblity is to condense the hydrogen by cooling it. But now you need bulky insulation for the tank, plus, it will either need active cooling from the car, or your have to accept that the hydrogen will eventually get too warm and blow the tank, and then you have to vent it.
Hydrogen doesn’t make sense at car scale.
Thank you kindly! It just seems so weird that Toyota and even Japan seems so gung-ho about it. I guess it’s a case of sunk cost fallacy?
Its not that I don’t agree with you but I figure there has to be a business case for it if Toyota is willing to keep investing in it for 25 years. Surely, at this point, they would have thrown in the towel but they keep at it. And to make maters more interesting, they don’t seem to give a shit about full electric either. It feels like they know something we don’t.
They bet on the wrong horse, they are reluctantly making the switch in BEV.
And the previous commenter didn’t even give the full picture, it’s that even making hydrogen is just wholly uneconomical any way you look at it, you can look up grey, green hydrogen.
The use case for hydrogen would be if someone drives like a shittton a day, so maybe semis, and like the less than 1% of drivers who need to dive that much.
https://www.toyota.com/mirai/
Toyota obviously hasn’t heard about this little thing called a Prius