• Allero@lemmy.today
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    12 hours ago

    People were always manipulated. I mean, they were indoctrinated with divine power of rulers, how much worse can it get? It’s just that now it tries to be a bit more stealthy.

    And previously, there were plenty of existential threats. Famine, plague, all that stuff that actually threatened to wipe us out.

    We’re still here, and we have what it takes to push back. We need more organizing, that’s all.

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      22 minutes ago

      In the past our eggs were not all in one basket.

      In the past it wasn’t possible to fuck up so hard you destroy all of humanity. That’s a new one.

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      8 hours ago

      It’s just that now it tries to be a bit more stealthy.

      With regard to what has been happening the past 100 days in the United States, it’s not even trying to be stealthy one little bit. If anything, it’s dropping massive hints of the objectionable things it’s planning for the near future.

      There are still existential threats: https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/

      The difference with a population of 8 billion is that we as individuals are less empowered to do anything significant about them than ever.

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      12 hours ago

      Well, it doesn’t have to get worse, AFAIK we are still headed towards human extinction due to Climate Change

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        8 hours ago

        I’m reading hopeful signs from China that they are actually making positive progress toward sustainability. Not that other big players are keeping up with them, but still how 1 billion people choose to live does make a difference.

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          7 hours ago

          Yeah, China is doing rather well in transition to Renewables and Nuclear, though it might be concerning for the future when we will have to buy everything Solar and SMR related from them

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            5 hours ago

            The only thing driving solar panel production development to China is cost. Cost of labor, cost of environmental regulations, maybe cost of raw material acquisition… All that investment there for the past 20+ years driven by cost is “paying off” now with their production capacity. We’re getting TMSC plants in Arizona, we’ve already got BMW, Mercedes, Toyota etc. production plants in the US, nothing stopping us from building solar panel factories, except international corporate profit optimization.

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        11 hours ago

        Honestly, the “human extinction” level of climate change is very far away. Currently, we’re preventing the “sunken coastal cities, economic crisis and famine in poor regions” kind of change, it’s just that “we’re all gonna die” sounds flashier.

        We have the time to change the course, it’s just that the sooner we do this, the less damage will be done. This is why it’s important to solve it now.

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          8 hours ago

          Currently, we’re preventing the “sunken coastal cities, economic crisis and famine in poor regions” kind of change

          Are we really preventing it? Seems like the track toward that change is mostly unabated. Sure, it’s a couple of generations out before it gets serious, but what are the signs that the track has improved?