‘We do not expect the officers to wait until they’re fired upon before they feel the necessity to fire’ Cincinnati Police Chief Teresa Theetge said of the incident
The funny thing about being a conscious entity with the capacity to remember things is that, in order to survive and navigate the world, one tends to notice patterns in the world at large. One then uses these past patterns to predict future events. This cuts down significantly on the processing required to survive and navigate the world, which is evolutionarily advantageous because energy is at a premium.
Yeah, which is why when the cops spend all their time every day just chasing around violent assholes who stole somebody’s car, beat their spouse, stole some cigarettes, drove drunk, or whatever, it starts to become totally justified to
Wait what were we talking about again?
The facts of the individual matter. Beyond that, I don’t even agree with you that the cops do violent crime with no punishment that is objectively false. It used to be true. Back in the 80s and 90s it was godawful, up until 2020 it was still pretty bad, after 2020 it’s changed. In my opinion. Like I said elsewhere, probably a fair way to do it is to list out a handful of high-profile cases from the last few years where the cops did something fucked up, and then ask what percentage of the time they got charges for it.
Lemmy likes to take this simple confident narrative that the answer is more or less 0%. That is clearly and objectively wrong. And then, they expand it out into this whole table-pounding-on narrative why it’s perfectly okay to slam into some person who’s just out doing their job with your car if you’re upset because your son stole a car and ran around with a gun and some shit happened (again – assuming that the cops are telling the truth more or less about how it happened). I get why a father would react that way. It’s a pretty human reaction, any father would at least want to. I don’t get why people on Lemmy are defending it.
You can’t be both perfectly comfortable lumping every single individual into a class of people and then killing any of them you feel like if you get upset about something that happened, and also get upset when the police do the exact same thing (which, again, they aboslutely should not do) with the class of people who are “suspects.” It is 100% exactly the same evolutionary pattern recognition you are defending here.
I point out that “the way it used to be” trained the public to see the police this way, and your response is “But it’s not that way anymore”. Do you understand how training works?
If you want this perception to change, it’s going to take at least as many decades of the police being exactly what they should have been this whole time. That’s the fact. The public perception makes sense, whether you want to admit it or not; arguing against decades of practical training is a losing proposition.
I’m not interested in your justifications, because that’s not what I’m doing here, so I’m going to block you now. Do think about this further, I believe you’ll be able to understand what I’m saying eventually.
There’s actually a friend-of-a-friend of mine who is a LEO, and he explicitly told my friend that he racially profiles, for exactly this reason. Everything you were saying was his justification.
Yeah, which is why when the cops spend all their time every day just chasing around violent assholes who stole somebody’s car, beat their spouse, stole some cigarettes, drove drunk, or whatever, it starts to become totally justified to
Wait what were we talking about again?
The facts of the individual matter. Beyond that, I don’t even agree with you that the cops do violent crime with no punishment that is objectively false. It used to be true. Back in the 80s and 90s it was godawful, up until 2020 it was still pretty bad, after 2020 it’s changed. In my opinion. Like I said elsewhere, probably a fair way to do it is to list out a handful of high-profile cases from the last few years where the cops did something fucked up, and then ask what percentage of the time they got charges for it.
Lemmy likes to take this simple confident narrative that the answer is more or less 0%. That is clearly and objectively wrong. And then, they expand it out into this whole table-pounding-on narrative why it’s perfectly okay to slam into some person who’s just out doing their job with your car if you’re upset because your son stole a car and ran around with a gun and some shit happened (again – assuming that the cops are telling the truth more or less about how it happened). I get why a father would react that way. It’s a pretty human reaction, any father would at least want to. I don’t get why people on Lemmy are defending it.
You can’t be both perfectly comfortable lumping every single individual into a class of people and then killing any of them you feel like if you get upset about something that happened, and also get upset when the police do the exact same thing (which, again, they aboslutely should not do) with the class of people who are “suspects.” It is 100% exactly the same evolutionary pattern recognition you are defending here.
I point out that “the way it used to be” trained the public to see the police this way, and your response is “But it’s not that way anymore”. Do you understand how training works?
If you want this perception to change, it’s going to take at least as many decades of the police being exactly what they should have been this whole time. That’s the fact. The public perception makes sense, whether you want to admit it or not; arguing against decades of practical training is a losing proposition.
I’m not interested in your justifications, because that’s not what I’m doing here, so I’m going to block you now. Do think about this further, I believe you’ll be able to understand what I’m saying eventually.
There’s actually a friend-of-a-friend of mine who is a LEO, and he explicitly told my friend that he racially profiles, for exactly this reason. Everything you were saying was his justification.
Have a good day, I hope your blocking goes well.