Sounds like you live in an echo chamber. Windows is still by far the most popular computer operating system, and it’s not even close. There’s no sign of people moving away from Windows en-masse. Windows 11 adoption has been massive.
I work at a national IT support company talking to hundreds of windows users every week, and the general sentiment is that Windows 11 is unnecessary, new outlook is literally the Antichrist and people are sick of being charged more and more every year for crap they don’t want or need.
Just l8ke I still see 2012R2 servers in the wild, Windows 10 isn’t going away anytime soon.
Compared to Linux adoptions (and I mean every distro combined), the adoption of Windows 11 is ginormous.
The reason it was “forced down throats” is because the average user doesn’t give a shit and would still be on Windows 2000 if it came with their computer.
Yet they would still blame Microsoft if anything went wrong.
For comparison, if people adopted Linux the same way, you’d have people still on Corel Linux.
I was thinking more in terms of MS locking out everything prior to Coffee Lake or Zen+ from running Win11, rendering a lot of otherwise still viable hardware obsolete, killing off Win10 GAC, and essentially forcing the purchase of a new PC with Win11 installed.
Irrelevant. Windows 11 is well over 50% of respondents on the steam survey, has been since late last year iirc. Windows 11 is the best Windows OS, and arguably PC OS, there has ever been. People are not getting fed up with it or moving away to Linux. Factually they just aren’t.
So, forced Bitlocker, forced obsolescence of otherwise still viable hardware, forced online accounts, and having Copilot/Recall shoved down your throat for the versions of that OS that a normal consumer can legally and readily obtain, make Win11 the best PC OS?
I mean, sure, you can get LTSC and Win11 even has an LTSC version, but unless you’re a large corporation, there’s no legal way for you to get it, the only legal versions a normal consumer can get are Home or Pro as those are readily available on the retail circuit, and if you bought an OEM prebuilt from any big box store, one can just download the normal Win11 ISO from MS and it should auto-activate to whatever version that system came preinstalled with, which is typically Home, and those are the versions that treat their users like hot trash, Home especially.
Windows 11 is the best Windows OS, and arguably PC OS, there has ever been.
So, forced Bitlocker, forced obsolescence of otherwise still viable hardware, forced online accounts, and having Copilot/Recall shoved down your throat for the versions of that OS that a normal consumer can legally and readily obtain, make Win11 the best PC OS?
Forced security, oh no…Forced obsolescence? No hardware is being made obsolete, it will keep working just fine. Forced online accounts that are only needed once for login a single time? Oh no, the horror. Not to mention that the “forced online account” saves your bitlocker encryption key on it, so you can recover your data if your hardware gets destroyed. Copilot and Recall aren’t the same thing. They are OS features that you can turn off if you want. Some people actually like them too!
Those aren’t the things that make Win11 the best PC OS, they’re just things that you don’t like that you think make it bad - but you’re overlooking everything that make it good.
More like MS enabling Bitlocker and causing data loss without the user knowing about it, something that’s been pissing a lot of people off lately, and forced obsolescence refers to Win11 blocking everything prior to Zen+ and Coffee Lake, compounded with Win10 going EOL soon, which has at least the intended effect of making people buy a new PC even if their old PC is still good otherwise, and not all people are comfortable with having to sign up for an online account just to install their OS and would rather make a local account if possible; MS recently axed the workaround which enabled that for the consumer versions of Windows.
Also, I didn’t know local backups of your data ala simply copying it to an external drive at the minimum, weren’t an option that existed anymore. sarcasm
If you’ve signed in to a MS account you have your bitlocker encryption key and won’t lose any data.
and forced obsolescence refers to Win11 blocking everything prior to Zen+ and Coffee Lake
Because Win11 uses features that that hardware doesn’t have. Win10 is still there and still works. You can’t stop progress forever.
and not all people are comfortable with having to sign up for an online account just to install their OS and would rather make a local account if possible;
Sure, but most are fine with it especially with the benefits it brings. For older people it’s an absolute godsend, as all their files are automatically backed up to onedrive and accessible on any computer.
Also, I didn’t know local backups of your data ala simply copying it to an external drive at the minimum, weren’t an option that existed anymore. sarcasm
Sounds like you live in a contrarian chamber. People really do hate the “new Outlook” (basically it’s just Hotmail) and Windows 11 adoption has been slower than for most other versions of Windows. The requirements often mean needing to buy a new computer which a lot of people can’t afford, especially if prices go up because of tariff nonsense.
There will be a lot of people still running on out of support Windows 10 systems at the end of the year.
New outlook is a steaming pile. Classic Outlook has some very handy features and unless Evolution pulls its finger out, I will continue to use classic Outlook. Hell, I used Outlook 2010 until last year.
Running out of support windows is nothing new. The point was that people would rather do that than switch to Linux. People aren’t leaving to Linux instead any great numbers.
Sounds like you live in an echo chamber. Windows is still by far the most popular computer operating system, and it’s not even close. There’s no sign of people moving away from Windows en-masse. Windows 11 adoption has been massive.
I work at a national IT support company talking to hundreds of windows users every week, and the general sentiment is that Windows 11 is unnecessary, new outlook is literally the Antichrist and people are sick of being charged more and more every year for crap they don’t want or need.
Just l8ke I still see 2012R2 servers in the wild, Windows 10 isn’t going away anytime soon.
Of course windows 10 isn’t going away anytime soon. The point is that people aren’t leaving windows for Linux.
If Win11 adoption is really massive, it’s because MS forced it down people’s throats.
Compared to Linux adoptions (and I mean every distro combined), the adoption of Windows 11 is ginormous.
The reason it was “forced down throats” is because the average user doesn’t give a shit and would still be on Windows 2000 if it came with their computer.
Yet they would still blame Microsoft if anything went wrong.
For comparison, if people adopted Linux the same way, you’d have people still on Corel Linux.
I was thinking more in terms of MS locking out everything prior to Coffee Lake or Zen+ from running Win11, rendering a lot of otherwise still viable hardware obsolete, killing off Win10 GAC, and essentially forcing the purchase of a new PC with Win11 installed.
Irrelevant. Windows 11 is well over 50% of respondents on the steam survey, has been since late last year iirc. Windows 11 is the best Windows OS, and arguably PC OS, there has ever been. People are not getting fed up with it or moving away to Linux. Factually they just aren’t.
So, forced Bitlocker, forced obsolescence of otherwise still viable hardware, forced online accounts, and having Copilot/Recall shoved down your throat for the versions of that OS that a normal consumer can legally and readily obtain, make Win11 the best PC OS?
I mean, sure, you can get LTSC and Win11 even has an LTSC version, but unless you’re a large corporation, there’s no legal way for you to get it, the only legal versions a normal consumer can get are Home or Pro as those are readily available on the retail circuit, and if you bought an OEM prebuilt from any big box store, one can just download the normal Win11 ISO from MS and it should auto-activate to whatever version that system came preinstalled with, which is typically Home, and those are the versions that treat their users like hot trash, Home especially.
Forced security, oh no…Forced obsolescence? No hardware is being made obsolete, it will keep working just fine. Forced online accounts that are only needed once for login a single time? Oh no, the horror. Not to mention that the “forced online account” saves your bitlocker encryption key on it, so you can recover your data if your hardware gets destroyed. Copilot and Recall aren’t the same thing. They are OS features that you can turn off if you want. Some people actually like them too!
Those aren’t the things that make Win11 the best PC OS, they’re just things that you don’t like that you think make it bad - but you’re overlooking everything that make it good.
More like MS enabling Bitlocker and causing data loss without the user knowing about it, something that’s been pissing a lot of people off lately, and forced obsolescence refers to Win11 blocking everything prior to Zen+ and Coffee Lake, compounded with Win10 going EOL soon, which has at least the intended effect of making people buy a new PC even if their old PC is still good otherwise, and not all people are comfortable with having to sign up for an online account just to install their OS and would rather make a local account if possible; MS recently axed the workaround which enabled that for the consumer versions of Windows.
Also, I didn’t know local backups of your data ala simply copying it to an external drive at the minimum, weren’t an option that existed anymore.
sarcasmIf you’ve signed in to a MS account you have your bitlocker encryption key and won’t lose any data.
Because Win11 uses features that that hardware doesn’t have. Win10 is still there and still works. You can’t stop progress forever.
Sure, but most are fine with it especially with the benefits it brings. For older people it’s an absolute godsend, as all their files are automatically backed up to onedrive and accessible on any computer.
What are you talking about?
Sounds like you live in a contrarian chamber. People really do hate the “new Outlook” (basically it’s just Hotmail) and Windows 11 adoption has been slower than for most other versions of Windows. The requirements often mean needing to buy a new computer which a lot of people can’t afford, especially if prices go up because of tariff nonsense.
There will be a lot of people still running on out of support Windows 10 systems at the end of the year.
New outlook is a steaming pile. Classic Outlook has some very handy features and unless Evolution pulls its finger out, I will continue to use classic Outlook. Hell, I used Outlook 2010 until last year.
It met my needs.
Running out of support windows is nothing new. The point was that people would rather do that than switch to Linux. People aren’t leaving to Linux instead any great numbers.