Trump warned he will impose additional tariffs on the European Union and Canada if they band together to “do economic harm” against the United States.

Get @#$%ed, Trump. Good read. Short but detailed about how partnered we are already and what our next priorities should be

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    1 day ago

    So, when you generalize canada in your mind right-wingers is what comes to mind? Or just the govt?

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      Hard to call Canada not right wing when basically 90% of the country is voting for central right and far right parties. Liberals haven’t been even slightly left leaning for a long time. The most generous way to describe them is a party that uses left leaning policies to achieve right leaning goals.

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        And yet, we’re way more immigrant-friendly and tolerant than literally anywhere in Europe.

        I have no idea what your criteria is here. I’m pretty sure Carney would be mainstream in Germany as well.

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          Most of the Liberals’ positions is to use the markets to solve social issues. That is completely a right-wing ideology, and the name for it is Liberalism, literally what the party is called. Liberalism is by definition prioritizing the individual actions and limiting government intervention.

          While the Liberals do not advocate for small government, they do advocate for minimizing direct government intervention, relying on corporations to do the government’s job. They just are willing to push for social spending to make the markets fix their problems. The problems that have created by the markets because market forces do not have a line in their accounts for morality or public good.

          The Liberals do quite a lot of good for the country, since they don’t try to run it like a third world purely resource based nation, but that’s because they’re pretty progressive and understand that resource-based economies don’t last and are fragile. But they are still economy first, people second as a party, a party that prioritizes the capitalist system with only a few concessions for social programs.

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            Boy do I have news about the founding values of the European Union.

            achieve sustainable development based on balanced economic growth and price stability and a highly competitive market economy with full employment and social progress

            I mean, it did start out during the Cold War. The other values are given more emphasis but that’s still there.

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              Yea, but this was back in the times when the left was considered anti-west. Left nowadays just means socialistic policies and is where most of the EU stands. Though far-left is still pretty taboo since it’s equating to communism, far right is lately considered more neo-Nazism rather than unregulated capitalism (though to be fair both are still considered far-right depending on who you ask).

              Founding ideals get pretty obsolete and often don’t reflect reality after a few generations. Just look at how much the US talks about their founding ideals and how the country looks nothing like it despite talking about their supposed ideals constantly (like how one of the original ideals was that only rich land owners should be allowed to vote).

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      Almost 45% of our voting population are voting for the Conservatives. That’s a lot of people who desperately want to be the 51st state and live under authoritarianism and fascism.

      Why they don’t just move there is beyond me. I would gladly see every single Conservative voter move to the America they want us to be. Canada don’t need them or their kind.

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        I’m guessing only a small minority of those voters know that’s what they’re asking for. They were just told everything will get way better immediately and were dumb enough to believe it.

        Or, like here, they would literally vote for an aardvark if it was labeled conservative, because tradition.

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        Wait till you hear about the percentage of Europeans voting hard right (often to the right of PP).

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        You know damn well that 60+% of that 45% have no idea what you are talking about if you say the words “51st state”.

        I am all for shitting on conservatives and liberals alike. But let’s at least be honest with ourselves before smugly wiping.

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      This is from a European view and while not the US the political spectrum suffers from the same problem.
      What some Canadians consider left is only relative.
      So this is your ‘liberal’ party?:
      https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/12/30/cypl-d30.html

      And it’s a simple verifiable fact that voters decide on the goverment, so maybe it’s only in your mind that they’re not right-wingers.
      Maybe it’s an uncomfortable truth?

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        I think your “European” view is overlooking basically all of Eastern Europe, and some of Western Europe too. I’m 100% on board for PIIGS leftism (+Corbyn +Melenchon), but don’t pretend that’s what “left” means everywhere in Europe.

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        I love how everyone answering this question is taking an aggressive posture like I was defending or attacking something.

        Fun stuff. Thanks for answering anyway.

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          I guess if you find my answer aggressive I’m right that it’s an uncomfortable truth for you.

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            You said ‘your liberal party’ as if I would ever vote liberal. Swing and a miss there. Liberal is basically an insult to me.

            And then you claimed that I would somehow be uncomfortable with what you consider to be the truth. If that isn’t plainly passive aggressive tone then I am a wombat in need of a martini.

            All I was asking was if you thought of run-of-the-mill canucks as right-wingers, or if you meant the govt. From that you assumed my position and blithely attacked it.

            You are cute though, I’ll give you that.